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    Quote Originally Posted by LaBombo View Post
    Twins surged past Miami last night to grab second place on the MLB negative run differential leader board.
    Three game better than our pythag? RonG for MotY!
    "Maybe you could go grab a bat and ball… and learn something. Maybe you will get it."
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    There are 95 pitchers who have pitched at least 140 innings this year. Amongst those 95, Pelfrey ranks 93rd in ERA.
    Just remember: You put the lime IN the coconut. Only THEN, can you drink it all up.

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    Only one bullpen in the AL has allowed a higher % of inherited runs than ours and only one AL team has allowed more inherited runs to score.

    Expand that out to all of MLB, only 3 MLB teams have allowed a higher % of inherited runs to score than ours and only one MLB team has allowed more inherited runs to score.

    Our bullpen ranks 5th in inherited runners.
    Just remember: You put the lime IN the coconut. Only THEN, can you drink it all up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePuck View Post
    Only one bullpen in the AL has allowed a higher % of inherited runs than ours and only one AL team has allowed more inherited runs to score.

    Expand that out to all of MLB, only 3 MLB teams have allowed a higher % of inherited runs to score than ours and only one MLB team has allowed more inherited runs to score.

    Our bullpen ranks 5th in inherited runners.
    I chalk all that up to 2 things: crappy starting pitching, obviously, but also Gardy's tendency to make reactive moves with his starters rather than proactive ones. He never seems to remove starters until too late.
    Every post is not every other post. - a wise man

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    Catcher
    League average 246/314/399
    Twins 302/381/476

    1B
    League 260/333/449
    Twins 258/320/411

    2B
    League 265/324/382
    Twins 245/313/399

    3B
    League 262/323/422
    Twins 247/305/369

    SS
    League 256/309/375
    Twins 225/283/336

    LF
    League 257/319/408
    Twins 228/318/383

    CF
    League 264/328/415
    Twins 225/291/348

    RF
    League 263/323/419
    Twins 236/313/389

    DH
    League 245/324/401
    Twins 220/302/354
    Chris Hermann solves everything. hat tip to jokin

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    Quote Originally Posted by GCTF View Post
    Catcher
    League average 246/314/399
    Twins 302/381/476

    1B
    League 260/333/449
    Twins 258/320/411

    2B
    League 265/324/382
    Twins 245/313/399

    3B
    League 262/323/422
    Twins 247/305/369

    SS
    League 256/309/375
    Twins 225/283/336

    LF
    League 257/319/408
    Twins 228/318/383

    CF
    League 264/328/415
    Twins 225/291/348

    RF
    League 263/323/419
    Twins 236/313/389

    DH
    League 245/324/401
    Twins 220/302/354
    That was pretty much anything BUT fun with numbers.
    Sure am glad our catchers have good stats.

    Wait, that's mostly that one guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgoat_MN View Post
    That was pretty much anything BUT fun with numbers.
    Sure am glad our catchers have good stats.

    Wait, that's mostly that one guy.
    Yeah, Pinto sure bumps up the numbers.
    Every post is not every other post. - a wise man

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    The Twins have a chance to score fewer than 600 runs this season. If my research is correct, only two teams have "accomplished" that in the past 10 years.
    Every post is not every other post. - a wise man

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    I chalk all that up to 2 things: crappy starting pitching, obviously, but also Gardy's tendency to make reactive moves with his starters rather than proactive ones. He never seems to remove starters until too late.
    The crappy starting pitching would certainly inflate the actual number of inherited runners scored, but I fail to see how it would affect the %.
    This bullpen is overrated. While I won't go as far as to say that ERA has no value as far as bullpens go, I think it is near the bottom of the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    I chalk all that up to 2 things: crappy starting pitching, obviously, but also Gardy's tendency to make reactive moves with his starters rather than proactive ones. He never seems to remove starters until too late.
    It's funny you say that. One another site, a fan was talking about how he thought Gardy was better this year at utilizing his relief corp and pointed out their collective ERA. I put up the same info I put here and wrote: 'That seems to suggest, at least to me, that he's waiting too long to use his relief corp.'

    And I really can't see an argument otherwise. If the bullpen ERA is as good as it is, but they allow that high a % of inherited runners to score, then the manager is not working his relief corp well...he's leaving the starters in too long. At the same time, a good bullpen, stops the bleeding.
    Just remember: You put the lime IN the coconut. Only THEN, can you drink it all up.

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    I've really never posted to this thread but thought about it as I was looking at strikeout numbers this morning.

    We all know that Twins pitchers struck out the fewest batters this year but did you know that:

    -they struck out 99 less than the Astros (the 2nd lowest AL team)?

    -American League teams averaged 1235.74 strikeouts per pitching corps while NL teams averaged 1211.66? (remarkably similar)

    -the variation from the average in the AL was incredible -- the Twins were 250 SO's below the average while the Tigers were 192 above the average; the NL was much more "compact" with the Rockies being 147 below the average and the Reds were 84 above

    -the Yankees were the "mean" in the AL with 1233 while the D'Backs were the mean in the NL with 1218 (the mean in both leagues was surprisingly close to the average in both leagues).

    -the pitching staffs of the remaining four playoff teams struck out: Tigers (1428); Red Sox (1294); Dodgers (1292); Cards (1254); the teams that lost earlier in the playoffs/wild cards/playin games lost: Reds (1296); Pirates (1261); Braves (1232); Indians (1379); Rays (1310)

    -Braves at 1232 had the lowest number of strikeouts of any playoff team



    Disclaimer: I took the figures from baseball reference and think I got all of them from the Pitching column not the batting column. If I screwed up on any of them, I apologize.

    Raw numbers:

    Twins 985
    Astros 1084
    Orioles 1169
    A's 1183
    Angels 1200
    Royals 1208
    Jays 1208
    Yankees 1233
    White Sox 1249
    Red Sox 1294
    Mariners 1297
    Rangers 1309
    Rays 1310
    Indians 1379
    Tigers 1428
    Rockies 1064
    Brewers 1125
    Padres 1171
    Marlins 1177
    Cubs 1184
    Phillies 1199
    Mets 1209
    D'Backs 1218
    Braves 1232
    Nats 1236
    Cardinals 1254
    Giants 1256
    Pirates 1261
    Dodgers 1292
    Reds 1296

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    Our relief staff had 33 more Ks than our rotation.
    Just remember: You put the lime IN the coconut. Only THEN, can you drink it all up.

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    The Twins had only one qualified pitcher this year. Just as they did in 2012 and 2011. Amont qualifers, the Twins single qualified pitcher had the 7th fewest strikeouts in 2011, 2nd fewest in 2012 and the fewest in 2013.

    These were never the same pitcher.

    To make these facts fun:

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    Time to pile on: Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer combined to strike out 457 hitters this year. Twins starters--all of them added together--struck out 477.
    Every post is not every other post. - a wise man

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    Outside of Correia and Deduno, the rest of the Twins starters somehow combined to deliver 600IP for -6.0 WAR (6.0 WBR?)

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    Number of Twins fans depressed after reading this thread +1.
    "If you'da been thinkin' you wouldn't 'a thought that.."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmathewson View Post
    Number of Twins fans depressed after reading this thread +1.
    Severely underestimated.
    I'm on a whiskey diet. I've lost 3 days already.

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