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Thread: Article: Twins Sign Lefty Reliever Rafael Perez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosterman View Post
    Solid pick-up place setter if you wish to offer more time to Robertson and Theilbar. The Twins need some left-handed support, especially if Perkins IS the closer and Diamond starts the season on the DL. You could get by with just Duensing in the bullpen (with closer Perkins) if you had a second starter in the rotation who would consistently go 6-7 innings (Saunders). But the Twins don't and probably won't. Has a team ever started a season with no lefties at all on the pitching staff?
    Kansas City a couple years back. Dick mentioned it repeatedly the whole season. He was utterly fascinated by it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
    Why are the Twins signing guys who can potentially be good SP or very good RP when they could be signing a 7th AAAA Catcher? God, it's clear Terry Ryan just doesn't care any more.
    Obsess much?

    Please cite the evidence that Perez is a "potentially good SP". Perhaps his 0.92 IP/Appearance since 2008? Or the last time he actually started a game?- 7 starts in AAA in 2007. Or maybe the fact that he went 60-day DL and pitched all of 7.2 innings last year because of the damage done to his arm by throwing 60% sliders the last 2 years when he had to rely heavily on another pitch to stay in the league- given that he has lost nearly 5MPH on his fastball. Or maybe not having any viable offer since he was DFAd in November?

    I'll give the Twins this, they maintained their pattern of low-risk/high reward signings- along with the accompanying pie in the sky PR hyperbole. Coming back to reality and crossing of fingers, there's a fighting chance he could be serviceable as a RP, Burton came in last year with lower expectations than Perez.

    Going back to the Catcher/MI ongoing debacle, at least Ryan signed JR Towles (,770 AAA OPS) to give some semblance of embarrassment and urgency about carrying a bench player with a career .497 OPS. This year? Not so much.

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    I guess this is place where we are to comment. My page has only one comment on it as opposed to page linked from the left. He signed to a MiLB contract so this seems like a low-risk investment. Goodness, the Twins could use improvement in the pen so I can't see any big deal.

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    Perez vs...

    Mauer: 3-12, 2B, 2 BB, 2 K, .690 OPS
    Morneau: 4-19, 2B, 2 BB, K, .536 OPS
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    Span: 1-13, 2 BB, 5 K, .264 OPS
    Thome: 1-18, BB, 7 K, GIDP, .161 OPS

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    This ignore feature is pretty nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
    This ignore feature is pretty nice.
    And yet, you somehow still found a way to comment.

    In addition, nice response to the facts presented in reply to your assertion about Perez being a "potentially good SP". Sky color in your world, again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
    And yet, you somehow still found a way to comment.

    In addition, nice response to the facts presented in reply to your assertion about Perez being a "potentially good SP". Sky color in your world, again?
    Oh, Brother.

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    Last edited by luke829; 02-14-2013 at 04:50 PM.
    Mastermind of the "Free Bert" sign.

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    I'm all for kicking tires so if it doesn't cost you much why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrow View Post
    I'm all for kicking tires so if it doesn't cost you much why not?
    I guess you didn't see that superbowl ad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luke829 View Post
    WAR is a very overrated stat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashburyjohn View Post
    I guess you didn't see that superbowl ad.
    Nope, no idea at all what you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrow View Post
    I'm all for kicking tires so if it doesn't cost you much why not?
    I'm guessing the fact of Perez not having his tires kicked since November AND being a lefty, means the Twins got him for realllly cheap. The Twins have 2 legit lefty BP options- unfortuantely, one is the Closer and the other they continue to have wet dreams about returning to the rotation. The current third option still has a lot to prove if his upside is anything other than a LOOGY. While this is clearly a move from weakness rather than strength- If Perez gives 50% worth of Burton's production in 2012 (0.9 WAR) then TR successfully repolished a tarnished gem, certainly worth finding out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrow View Post
    Nope, no idea at all what you mean.
    Kia fembots get a bit protective over their distant cousin. Had to be there, I guess.

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    21 posts on this thread vs 12 (tho you can only see one!!!) on the main page (which I didnt initially see either).....you guys are gonna get someone mad!!!!

    148Ks in 137IP 108h 38bb 1.06whip in 07/08 but only 105k in 179.2IP 202H 73bb 1.53whip since......what happenned??
    Obviously the past 4 yrs caught the Twins/Rick Andersons attention!!
    Last edited by greengoblinrulz; 02-14-2013 at 05:20 PM.

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    He will be the Matt Malloney replacement. I have no issues with this, unless they consider him ahead of Tyler Robertson as far as depth goes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz View Post
    21 posts on this thread vs 12 (tho you can only see one!!!) on the main page (which I didnt initially see either).....you guys are gonna get someone mad!!!!

    148Ks in 137IP 108h 38bb 1.06whip in 07/08 but only 105k in 179.2IP 202H 73bb 1.53whip since......what happenned??
    Obviously the past 4 yrs caught the Twins/Rick Andersons attention!!
    According to Rob St Antony and Dave St Vodka, those numbers make him a prime starting candidate.

    He's continued to lose a ton of velocity in the last few years and has been begun relying heavily on one pitch the last two, apparently resulting in his arm to begin to breakdown. Okay, then, let's give iron man the ball every 5th day., then.

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    Thank god we taxpayers built target field, it is signings like this that make paying higher taxes totally worth it. But then, now that they have target field, Dave is saying payroll does not matter.
    Lighten up Francis....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashburyjohn View Post
    WAR is a very overrated stat.
    In what way? In single season serving size and unadjusted for age and other factors, it's not a very good predictive tool, but then it wasn't meant to be. As far as quantifying what a player did to help his team win in a give season, it's awfully good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashburyjohn View Post
    Oh, Brother.
    So Vodka goes off topic and you're blaming it on jokin?

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