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    Murphy: Worley Ready To Go

    I find it somewhat interesting that one of Worley's worst days as a pitcher came at Hammond Stadium when he was trying to make the Phils last year. I also find it interesting that off-speed stuff seems to be more critical in the AL...

    "For me, there's probably more breaking balls (to throw) in the American League. But in the end, it's still my stuff versus your stuff," he said. "It's just figuring out the hitters in this league."
    Minnesota Twins' Vance Worley returns to scene of 'worst outing' - TwinCities.com

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    I'm very optimistic about Worley. I read a lot of comments about him being a 3 or a 4.

    That may be so... Afterall... last year was a very average year numbers wise... But... There was nothing average about his 2011 season. He was very sharp in 2011 and 2012 could be written off as injury related or sophomore jinx related.

    Until he shows me differently in 2013... I'm starting the season with the expectation that Worley is what he was in 2011 and will lead this staff and lead it well.

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    Each pitching staff has an Ace, relative to the other starters.
    I believe he is ours.
    May was the featured pitcher in that trade, but Worley could be a great addition and he could be a Twin for years.
    Let's have it go that way!

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    I admit I'm optimistic about Worley's talent level too. I just hope the offseason health concerns have been taken care of. I hope bone chips are just bone chips.

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    I am not hopeful for Worley and this is why

    Split OPS
    1st PA in G as SP 0.661
    2nd PA in G as SP 0.72
    3rd PA in G as SP 0.843
    4th+ PA in G as SP 0.964

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willihammer View Post
    I am not hopeful for Worley and this is why

    Split OPS
    1st PA in G as SP 0.661
    2nd PA in G as SP 0.72
    3rd PA in G as SP 0.843
    4th+ PA in G as SP 0.964
    Is that 2012 or career?

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    Career. He's not exactly treding in the right direction though

    2012

    Split OPS
    1st PA in G as SP 0.62
    2nd PA in G as SP 0.863
    3rd PA in G as SP 0.971
    4th+ PA in G as SP 1.064

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willihammer View Post
    I am not hopeful for Worley and this is why

    Split OPS
    1st PA in G as SP 0.661
    2nd PA in G as SP 0.72
    3rd PA in G as SP 0.843
    4th+ PA in G as SP 0.964
    Be mindfull that the third and definately the fourth round of numbers would tend to higher due to facing the top of the order and probably missing the bottom. As it would appear that he averages about 6 IP/start, it would be more likely that if he were removed, it would be facing the top of the order. No I did not go back and look at any games..

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    Outs will tend to be harder to get as guys see more of your pitches, yes, but those numbers suggest to me that his future is in relief.

    By comparison

    Joe Saunders

    Split OPS
    1st PA in G as SP 0.77
    2nd PA in G as SP 0.747
    3rd PA in G as SP 0.778
    4th+ PA in G as SP 0.72


    Anibal

    Split OPS
    1st PA in G as SP 0.697
    2nd PA in G as SP 0.648
    3rd PA in G as SP 0.81
    4th+ PA in G as SP 0.679


    McCarthy

    Split OPS
    1st PA in G as SP 0.694
    2nd PA in G as SP 0.712
    3rd PA in G as SP 0.759
    4th+ PA in G as SP 0.766


    Marcum

    Split OPS
    1st PA in G as SP 0.657
    2nd PA in G as SP 0.728
    3rd PA in G as SP 0.737
    4th+ PA in G as SP 0.769

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    It should be noted that the "4th+" figure came in all of 22 plate appearances.
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    And, as you'd expect, Correia is just as bad

    Split OPS
    1st PA in G as SP 0.725
    2nd PA in G as SP 0.722
    3rd PA in G as SP 0.868
    4th+ PA in G as SP 1.083

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willihammer View Post
    And, as you'd expect, Correia is just as bad

    Split OPS
    1st PA in G as SP 0.725
    2nd PA in G as SP 0.722
    3rd PA in G as SP 0.868
    4th+ PA in G as SP 1.083
    Actually he's better, esp. if you minimize the 4th+ PA...

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    One thing you have to note: Worley was 24 last season. Before his prime. Young pitchers improve and I hope that those numbers change. Marcum is over his prime and the same with Saunders. Hard to compare those guys to a 24 year old
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    Worley has also never pitched more than 135 or so major league innings...and he pitched in the NL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willihammer View Post
    I am not hopeful for Worley and this is why

    You have no faith in two pitching coaches, a former all star catcher as coach, and a former MVP and all star catcher will be able to add to Worley's knowledge and make him a better pitcher?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willihammer View Post
    Career. He's not exactly treding in the right direction though

    2012

    Split OPS
    1st PA in G as SP 0.62
    2nd PA in G as SP 0.863
    3rd PA in G as SP 0.971
    4th+ PA in G as SP 1.064
    Thanks Hammer... Interesting stats to look at.

    He's still on the innings low side... the numbers need to stabalize and I remain hopeful that the numbers stabilize in the right direction as the inning count goes forward.

    The Vanimal... I can't wait for April. Let's go.

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