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    I'd much rather have Pelfrey then Jurrjens, best case scenario is that JJ is a decent #5 this year, we have plenty of those.

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    Besides the fact that his base contract is 15% of Correia's, I could care less. All these soft tossers are starting to look the same to me. Mark me down for a Meh vote too.

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    Jair Jurrjens to Baltimore

    ESPN is reporting the Jair Jurrjens just agreed to a deal with Baltimore, 1 year for $1.5 million plus incentives Report -- Jair Jurrjens, Baltimore Orioles reach 1-year, $1.5M deal - ESPN. It doesn't seem like a bad roll of the dice on a guy that is 1 year removed from a season of 2.96 ERA, 152 IP, and 1.22 WHIP.

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    "Maybe you could go grab a bat and ball… and learn something. Maybe you will get it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by edavis0308 View Post
    I do agree this one is more meh for me too, but what the hell? Did the guy have next to no interest out there?
    Given that he was pretty crummy even in Triple-A last year and his velocity has continually declined throughout his career, it isn't hard to see why.

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    I wonder if this makes it more likely that Joe Saunders comes to the Twins?

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    Carl Pavano just ruptured his spleen shoveling snow in his driveway in Vermont...TR should jump on that one. Another injured pitcher for $3 M --poof another starter for this year....this GM stuff is just too easy

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    Wait what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edavis0308 View Post
    Wait what?
    What?
    "Maybe you could go grab a bat and ball… and learn something. Maybe you will get it."
    - Strib commenter educating the elitists on the value of RBI's

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    Why are we sending Jair to Baltimore?
    Do or do not. There is no try.

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    I've probably been one of the fools in the world that's followed Jair Jurrjens with some regularity. For that reason, I'm probably higher on him than a lot of people. I wanted the Twins to trade for him previously. Would have liked this flier much more than a couple of the fliers we took thus far.

    Once in a while, that Twins will have to bring in a guy with some attitude. I don't want nice guys lining our dugout all the time. Not to say Jair is a bad guy, or an attitudey guy, but go after the Sidney Ponson's of the world. Oh wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Nelson View Post
    Given that he was pretty crummy even in Triple-A last year and his velocity has continually declined throughout his career, it isn't hard to see why.
    Uhh, the drop in velocity has only occurred in the last 2 years, his velocity stayed consistently in the 91MPH range in his previous 4 MLB years. and, BTW, despite the velocity drop, his 2011 season was a terrific year for him with a 2.96ERA, a 1.22 WHIP and an ERA+ of 129. On top of that, his loss of velocity apparently isn't an arm-related injury. AAA numbers from a major leaguer, especially when you're hurt and/or rehabbing are indicative of nothing. It seems a little rash to completely write a guy off with only one bad year of performance when Harden inhabits the same roster.

    I'd say that $1.5M/1 yr. is a very small wager on still-very-young pitcher (turns only 27 next Tuesday), with a much higher chance for hitting a jackpot, than say, the Zumaya deal was in 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haddyz View Post
    I've probably been one of the fools in the world that's followed Jair Jurrjens with some regularity. For that reason, I'm probably higher on him than a lot of people. I wanted the Twins to trade for him previously. Would have liked this flier much more than a couple of the fliers we took thus far.

    Once in a while, that Twins will have to bring in a guy with some attitude. I don't want nice guys lining our dugout all the time. Not to say Jair is a bad guy, or an attitudey guy, but go after the Sidney Ponson's of the world. Oh wait.
    Haddyz, since you've been following him, answer me this. If his arm isn't the injury concern, what's holding him back from making a near-to-complete recovery at only the age of 27 and being more than worth the minimal risk that the Orioles have staked him to?

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    Jurrjens was designated for assignment by Baltimore.

    Would he be worth giving some starts? There is currently an open spot on the 40. Diamond can be optioned. I think the Twins would have control next year if he has a good second half. He is 27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jorgenswest View Post
    Jurrjens was designated for assignment by Baltimore.

    Would he be worth giving some starts? There is currently an open spot on the 40. Diamond can be optioned. I think the Twins would have control next year if he has a good second half. He is 27.
    His velocity is down to the high 80's from what used to be the mid 90 range. Perhaps it would be nice if you explained, other than for a prayer that the pitcher from a few years ago returns, why the Twins should sign him/ Other than the reason "He is no worse than pitcher A, B, C, or D"

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    I'd rather see Albers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old nurse View Post
    His velocity is down to the high 80's from what used to be the mid 90 range. Perhaps it would be nice if you explained, other than for a prayer that the pitcher from a few years ago returns, why the Twins should sign him/ Other than the reason "He is no worse than pitcher A, B, C, or D"
    I assume I am the you...

    I asked a question and added info, you gave your answer. I don't know if the Twins should sign him. I don't know if his velocity will come ack following surgery. He was once effective. Is it worth the risk a little money in salary and a spot on the 40?

    The Twins could claim him and DFA him hoping to get him in their minor league system. It happened to Burnett a few times. Is it worth the trouble? Simply asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old nurse View Post
    His velocity is down to the high 80's from what used to be the mid 90 range. Perhaps it would be nice if you explained, other than for a prayer that the pitcher from a few years ago returns, why the Twins should sign him/ Other than the reason "He is no worse than pitcher A, B, C, or D"
    Rich Harden and Rafael Perez are in their 30s, Jurrjens is only 27. Seems like much-less-likely-answered prayers have already been put to use by the Twins FO this season. Jurrjens has a better chance at recovering full effectiveness than Jarred Burton had when the Twins signed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jorgenswest View Post
    I assume I am the you...

    I asked a question and added info, you gave your answer. I don't know if the Twins should sign him. I don't know if his velocity will come ack following surgery. He was once effective. Is it worth the risk a little money in salary and a spot on the 40?

    The Twins could claim him and DFA him hoping to get him in their minor league system. It happened to Burnett a few times. Is it worth the trouble? Simply asking.
    How can anyone argue against the Twins exploring all potential pitching options that essentially involve zero risk on their part?

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    No, have many starters in AAA about as good as him. I too would rather see Albers.

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