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    Article: Is Marcum the Twins' Best Hope?


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    Gamble ya but you got to find someone better than this.

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    Everything free agent is a gamble basically, I wouldnt say Marcum is the Center piece to a rotation. In my mind hes a number 3 pitcher. I would love to have him, but he will probably get more than he is worth, im sure the Twins wont spend somewhere around 20 million for 2 years on a guy like Marcum.

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    It would be good if he wasn't THE BEST HOPE, but the guy would be a very good addition. He fits well for the Twins and Target Field and does manage to strike more people out than what one might expect. I would find it ridiculous to be out-bid on Marcum. A Pavanoesque deal plus inflation might do it, and he is significantly better than Pavano. 2/20 and an option year with 2 million buyout seems easy for the Twins to do. The Twins should have $30 million to spend if ownership wants to. There are great smart pitching moves to be made for that money. AND AGAIN, the dollars are dropping after this season with Morneau, Blackburn, and Carroll off . . . so that 23 million reduction for next year should factor into this. Dempster and Marcum, Jackson and Marcum. Money should be no object there. And they would provide the key for 2014 and 2015.

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    Please no Dempster(too old). Would love Marcum for 2 - 3 years. Would help the blow of the rest of the pitchers the Twins are likely to sign.

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    I'm beginning to think that signing Marcum, or any other pseudo-big name this off-season is a bad move. I prefer the idea of moving Revere, staying away from big money guys and building for 2014+

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    And then spending money in 2014? Why not spend some now? Or do you have another plan for getting players in 2014?

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    I'm all for getting Marcum. He's a good pitcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
    It would be good if he wasn't THE BEST HOPE, but the guy would be a very good addition. He fits well for the Twins and Target Field and does manage to strike more people out than what one might expect. I would find it ridiculous to be out-bid on Marcum. A Pavanoesque deal plus inflation might do it, and he is significantly better than Pavano. 2/20 and an option year with 2 million buyout seems easy for the Twins to do. The Twins should have $30 million to spend if ownership wants to. There are great smart pitching moves to be made for that money. AND AGAIN, the dollars are dropping after this season with Morneau, Blackburn, and Carroll off . . . so that 23 million reduction for next year should factor into this. Dempster and Marcum, Jackson and Marcum. Money should be no object there. And they would provide the key for 2014 and 2015.
    I agree... Although I have condensed my hope to just one arm. I do agree. This waiting for something to happen is hard.

    It would be nice if I could be multiple fly's on multiple walls providing no one has a fly swatter.

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    Marcum might be the highest rank pitcher the Twins can sign without grossly overpaying

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    He seem like the high end of what the Twins will realistically get. I'm not sure if that qualifies as a 'best hope' or not, though.

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    Maybe the Twins' crack medical staff believes they've spotted something in Marcum's medical history that they believe they can fix. #sarcasm

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    Jim is on fire across threads.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
    Jim is on fire across threads.....
    Shhhhh... my bosses think all this typing I'm doing means I'm working my butt off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pleiss View Post
    I'm beginning to think that signing Marcum, or any other pseudo-big name this off-season is a bad move. I prefer the idea of moving Revere, staying away from big money guys and building for 2014+
    2015, more like. And then you have to have somebody to do more than simply fill out the roster for those two years - you can't commit to 110-loss seasons, this market will quit on you if you did. Contracts have to be viewed in that light. I'd be all for Dempster except he apparently wants 3 years and he's a risk to be bad by that third year, so no-go. I'm fine with trading Revere but you have to have a cost-effective yet capable replacement in mind until the young'uns are really ready (the alternative being to start the arbitration/free-agent clock prematurely on the guys you want to have contributing after 2015 too, in effect paying arbitration money later on for a 2013 of below-par play by a future stud). And so forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Crikket View Post
    Actually, one of my bosses is in Dallas and the other in Los Angeles... which probably does partially explain how I can get away with this
    They have teh internets in Dallas and LA too, y'know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashburyjohn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jim crikket View Post
    actually, one of my bosses is in dallas and the other in los angeles... Which probably does partially explain how i can get away with this
    they have teh internets in dallas and la too, y'know.
    ^^^ buzzkill

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashburyjohn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Crikket View Post
    Actually, one of my bosses is in Dallas and the other in Los Angeles... which probably does partially explain how I can get away with this
    They have teh internets in Dallas and LA too, y'know.
    You'd have to know my bosses. I'm pretty sure the availability of the internet would be news to at least one of them

    Besides... I'm really good at what I do, so they tend to make allowances for some of my less productive "hobbies".
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    While Marcum seems to be a (slight) step up from Edwin Jackson and the rest--I agree with those above--he is at best a weak number 2 (like Diamond). Maybe the best thing for Twins is sign him to a 2 year deal (with 3rd year option) for about 25mill and give DeVries, Deduno, Walters, etc one last shot to show something this year. Hope gibson is good in June and trade at deadline for pitcher.

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    What exactly is wrong with a number 2 pitcher, and what do people think those cost?

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