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    Article: Could the Twins Sign Zack Greinke?


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    In an effort not to be negative....I will just say it would be great if they signed him.

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    oh man i sure wish this would come true. All I want for christmas is some starting pitching!

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    Actually, I think there is a decent chance - in 2019. He, like Thome, seems like a guy destined to eventually play for the Twins, just not at the peak of his career.

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    At some point, they need to stop operating like a small-market team.
    Maybe not small-market, but they're still a mid-market team. Trading from a position of strength (like young, talented, outfielders) for pitching makes a lot more sense than overpaying a free-agent pitcher like Greinke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bonnes View Post
    Actually, I think there is a decent chance - in 2019. He, like Thome, seems like a guy destined to eventually play for the Twins, just not at the peak of his career.
    I was really high on Greinke when he played for the Royals, but I just don't see him as that dominant guy anymore. Maybe my expectations are just too high for a #1 starter, but with all of the issues he has had over the last three seasons I'm not sure he is worth the gamble. If we have the option of picking up one $100 million starter, would this be our choice? Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to criticize the trade if we do get him, I just don't think that is the direction I would go. For the same money, I think there is the option of spreading the money over two starting pitchers each with an equal chance of long term success.

    When he moved to the national league, I thought he would dominate. Although he had stretches of some quality innings, I don't think he has the mental makeup to ultimately lead our pitching staff and that is what I would want from our number one.

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    "At some point, they need to stop operating like a small-market team."

    I feel if they planned on moving away from the small market moniker, they wouldn't have brought back Terry Ryan. Unprecedented is the best word of this article. On an optimistic note.....Greinke would be awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAntiGardy View Post
    "At some point, they need to stop operating like a small-market team."

    I feel if they planned on moving away from the small market moniker, they wouldn't have brought back Terry Ryan. Unprecedented is the best word of this article. On an optimistic note.....Greinke would be awesome!
    amen

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    rather then try and spend 120 million on grinke why wouldnt we look at shohei otani?
    an 18 year old out of japan (no posting fee needed) he is 6´4 and throws 99-100 mph
    he would pair nicely with berrois for the future?

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    As a team that needs pitching more desperately than perhaps any other
    I believe Red Sox fans would beg to differ with this statement.

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    Not a bad idea....a true power arm it seems.
    But what do you do about being snakebit by Japanese talent after Nishi? No posting fee is a plus, of course.

    That you JohnnyG? Seems we are all making the transition....

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    well for 1 the ass, gm athony something or another got drunk with nishis agent , the twins did there due diligents by watching tapes of nishi then put in a bid(i believe the only 1) on him ...so i would suggest sending someone over there to watch him pitch..
    see what hes got and not sit in your hotel room drinking and watching videos

    as for my transition ive been getting banned here for a few months hahaha
    go twins ,
    but more importantly go away ryan and gardy

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnydakota View Post
    well for 1 the ass, gm athony something or another got drunk with nishis agent , the twins did there due diligents by watching tapes of nishi then put in a bid(i believe the only 1) on him ...so i would suggest sending someone over there to watch him pitch..
    see what hes got and not sit in your hotel room drinking and watching videos

    as for my transition ive been getting banned here for a few months hahaha
    go twins ,
    but more importantly go away ryan and gardy
    Can anyone understand this post????

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    The Twins can sign anyone they want by throwing money at them, but even outrageous sums of money do NO GOOD if they player doesn't want to play with a twice last-place team. The second part of any signing equation is that they will be second fiddle to Mauer in this town. The third part is that the Twins are an attraction to guys on the fringe, minor league free agent, players coming off a bad year, et al who see the Twins as an opportunity for playing time. Hell, even Jeff Gray got a potential upside to play somewhere in the bigs in 2013 because of what he showed as a Twin. The Twins either have ti badly overplay a player top get them here, ot still overpay a modest bit but give someone like Torii Hunter a 3-yhear contract. Considering tghey didn't want to give Cuddy a four..........

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    I would eagerly read a companion post to this entitled "Could the Twins trade for Alex Rodriguez?"

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    Could the Twins sign Grienke? Of course they could, provided he's interested.

    Should the Twins sign Grienke? A better question, IMO, and not any easy one to answer. I'd say yes, but it's about a 55-45 call, as arguments against it certainly have some merit.

    Will the Twins sign Grienke? I'd say the chances are the proverbial one in a million.

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    Part of me would love to see the Twins shock everyone and sign Greinke. Not only would it add the top-notch starter they've been desperately lacking, but it would send the message that they are actually serious about winning. It won't happen. The other part of me is fine with not handing a massive contract to a guy with that many question marks just because he happens to be the best of a week free agent class.

    But it will be interesting to see where he ends up. He turned down 5 years/$100 mil to stay in Milwaukee, so that bridge is probably burned. I'm guessing the Angels want him back and the Rangers and White Sox will probably make him offers, both tried getting him at the deadline.

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    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnydakota View Post
    well for 1 the ass, gm athony something or another got drunk with nishis agent , the twins did there due diligents by watching tapes of nishi then put in a bid(i believe the only 1) on him ...so i would suggest sending someone over there to watch him pitch..
    see what hes got and not sit in your hotel room drinking and watching videos

    as for my transition ive been getting banned here for a few months hahaha
    go twins ,
    but more importantly go away ryan and gardy
    Can anyone understand this post????
    It's been translated from the original Mexican version.......

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    I think so

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnnydakota View Post
    well for 1 the ass, gm athony something or another got drunk with nishis agent , the twins did there due diligents by watching tapes of nishi then put in a bid(i believe the only 1) on him ...so i would suggest sending someone over there to watch him pitch..
    see what hes got and not sit in your hotel room drinking and watching videos

    as for my transition ive been getting banned here for a few months hahaha
    go twins ,
    but more importantly go away ryan and gardy
    Can anyone understand this post????
    Yeah I think he's just saying proceed with caution with Japanese players and scout them better than we did Nishioka.

    I like the idea of gambling on a young flamethrower more than an aging star -- the upside is just as high, without the guaranteed downside of a hundred million dollar contract

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