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    Kubel and Cuddyer

    Cuddyer still likes Coors Field and Kubel likes Chase Field (I think those are the current names) even better. Neither is tearing it up on the road.

    Jason Kubel
















    G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    Home 41 145 29 48 11 2 12 43 20 39 1 0 .331 .411 .683 1.093
    Away 36 139 12 35 9 0 3 17 14 39 0 1 .252 .316 .381 .697

    77 284 41 83 20 2 15 60 34 78 1 1 .292 .365 .535 .901
    Michael Cuddyer
















    G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    Home 43 152 33 43 13 1 7 29 16 33 4 0 .283 .351 .520 .871
    Away 39 140 11 34 12 0 5 21 8 34 4 1 .243 .276 .436 .712
    82 292 44 77 25 1 12 50 24 67 8 1 .264 .316 .479 .795

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    those numbers show why it was a great decision to let them go

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    Those numbers prove nottin and if the Twins would have kept just one of them they would be a 500 team right now. Letting them go and get nottin is not great.

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    Got JO Berrios, Luke Bard & JT Chargois.....wouldnt say they got nothing.
    Saying one of those is worth 10-12 game difference if pretty funny.
    If they woulda kept one of those, then Ben Revere doesnt play....& then we have the worst defensive corner OF in majors.
    Great decision to let 2 overrated/whiny players go & start rebuilding.

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    The Twins got draft picks for them. I think we are better off with Willingham and Revere and this gives some salary flexibility for pitching. I think letting them go was the correct move

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    Absolutely it was the correct move to let them go... and I hope they both have great careers elsewhere, both are great people and very good ball players.

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    Kubel season is due to his finally bein able to hit lefties .287/.346/.468 in 94ABs vs a career average of .239/.312/.365 with Twins
    Coincidence that he finally left MN & Joe Vavra???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Gun View Post
    Those numbers prove nottin and if the Twins would have kept just one of them they would be a 500 team right now. Letting them go and get nottin is not great.
    I didn't realize they were starting pitchers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz View Post
    Got JO Berrios, Luke Bard & JT Chargois.....wouldnt say they got nothing.
    And likely don't sign Willingham/Doumit (one, the other, or both) if they kept them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
    I didn't realize they were starting pitchers.
    Cuddyer's career ERA is 0.00. A move from the bullpen to starting would make perfect sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDog View Post
    Cuddyer's career ERA is 0.00. A move from the bullpen to starting would make perfect sense.
    I think his secondary stuff comes up a little short for the rotation.
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    And likely don't sign Willingham/Doumit (one, the other, or both) if they kept them.
    also time to start changing the culture/attitude here.
    Couldnt stand hearing those 2 bitch/moan about not being able to hit in Target Field. Man up. Other dont have a problem there.
    Plouffe .633 home slugging
    Willingham .601
    Span .503
    Doumit .460
    Mauer .444 vs .406 in 10-.350 in 11

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    How many games did Thomas, Konatsu, Parmelee, Valencia, Hughes, Burroughs ect, win for you? How many more losses and years before
    your draft picks develop and will they. I believe in winning now the hell with tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
    I think his secondary stuff comes up a little short for the rotation.
    You overlook his legendary sleight-of-hand pitch.

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    Remember how TRyan was NOT sold on Revere...wonder where he stands now. That cost us signing Komatsu/Thomas....tho Bens time in AAA with Bruno turned his swing around (thanks Joe Vavra).
    Dont know how many people forget Ryan Doumit was our opening day RF. It took forever for TRyan/Gardy to get an idea of what this everyday lineup should be....for the most part (not perfect by any means). Gardy had Kubel/Cuddy hangover also.

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    No doubt Willy & Doumit were good signs, wasn't much for free agent SP out there, Buehrle, Wilson, Jackson, Kuroda was about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Gun View Post
    No doubt Willy & Doumit were good signs, wasn't much for free agent SP out there, Buehrle, Wilson, Jackson, Kuroda was about it.
    Hard to see where pitchers with the following lines would benefit the Twins:
    3.25 ERA, 1.13 WHIP, 4.13 k/bb
    2.43 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, 7.1 k/9
    3.73 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 2.53 k/bb
    3.50 ERA, 1.26 WHIP, 2.59 k/bb
    2.62 ERA, 1.12 WHIP, 8.0 k/9
    4.05 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, 3.41 k/bb
    3.51 ERA, 1.42 WHIP, 7.0 k/9
    3.69 ERA, 1.31 WHIP, 6.9 k/9
    3.44 ERA, 1.38 WHIP, 2.52 k/bb
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    Straight up comparison before Saturday's games:
    Kubel/Cuddyer - .278/.345/.504 .849 OPS
    Doumit/Hammer - .274/.352/.501 .853 OPS

    Same production, plus draft choices. Good call by good guys (Twins) on that front.

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    Where's the chart that factors in Cuddyer's veteran presence and his ability to keep people loose by doing illusions???

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    Quote Originally Posted by a-wan View Post
    Where's the chart that factors in Cuddyer's veteran presence and his ability to keep people loose by doing illusions???
    Charts are Dave's area of expertise.
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