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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketpig View Post
    Philip Humber pitched 20 innings over two seasons with Minnesota. Yeah, damn Anderson for not doing more with the kid. Wait, what?

    Garza was a good pitcher with the Twins. He had a 117 ERA+ the year he was traded. His career ERA+? 109.

    Dickey was an aberration. Anyone with an objective viewpoint can see that. He struggled with how many teams before figuring it out with the Mets?

    Lohse has had a marginal career as a decent middle-to-back of the rotation NL starter. He's not any better away from the Twins than he was with them. With the Twins, he had almost exactly a 100 ERA+. His career ERA+ is 96.

    Jason Marquis has pitched 26 innings for the Padres.

    You're not very good at this.
    Are we talking about the same Phillip Humber that has a 6.01 ERA this year? Yes, damn the Twins for not teaching him that!

    Dickey shouldn't be in the conversation at all, its literally a once in a lifetime scenario and he was a emergency starter for a playoff team when he was with the Twins, there was literally no space for him. A rebuilding team like the Mets did have space for him eventually, then magically he figured out how to master the knuckleball. It's a great baseball story, and the Twins can't take any blame for letting him go at the time. It's just a case of wrong place/wrong time for them.

    Marquis sucks and is a 5th starter for a NL team like he has always been. His results in the AL while disappointing were not shocking.

    Lohse is an NL baby, don't make me post the NL/AL pitching comic again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketpig View Post
    Philip Humber pitched 20 innings over two seasons with Minnesota. Yeah, damn Anderson for not doing more with the kid. Wait, what?

    Garza was a good pitcher with the Twins. He had a 117 ERA+ the year he was traded. His career ERA+? 109.

    Dickey was an aberration. Anyone with an objective viewpoint can see that. He struggled with how many teams before figuring it out with the Mets?

    Lohse has had a marginal career as a decent middle-to-back of the rotation NL starter. He's not any better away from the Twins than he was with them. With the Twins, he had almost exactly a 100 ERA+. His career ERA+ is 96.

    Jason Marquis has pitched 26 innings for the Padres.

    You're not very good at this.

    No, he's not good at this. Read his past posts, and it becomes clear that he despises the Twins. Don't feed the trolls.

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    I see your point. The Twins are so loaded with starting pitching talent at every level, they should endeavor to rid themselves of some of it at any cost.

    BTW...Liriano is easily the Twins second best starter in 2012, even with his horrendous start.
    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. That is what not trading and re-signing Liriano would be. He has always been inconsistent, why you would want to invest more money into a car that may or may not start on any given day is beyond me.

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