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    Quote Originally Posted by old nurse View Post
    Maybe they are drafting players they can sign below slot so they can take risks later by drafting a player they can bribe out of college.

    Hey! Old Nurse! Were you whistling past any graveyards when you typed this?

    But seriously, is there a plan afoot to draft bunches of inexpensive college potential starters with late-round picks and hope that a SP version of a Jared Burton or two emerges, ala the Twins "find-some-RPs-by-quantity-invites" spring training plan?

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    Relievers can turn into starters. Remember Santana was in the bullpen?

    Remember this is a draft. No player is a lock to make The Show.
    I bent my wookie...

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    I just can't understand why anyone would draft a projected reliever. Relievers are what you pull off the scrap heap during the rule 5 draft, or what you do with a starter when he doesn't pan out, or what you pay $1M for in free agency. This is confounding. Either they're not even trying, or they have some mysterious secret plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicksaviking View Post
    Does anyone have a draft tracker? All I can get is the live feed from MLB's website but if they are providing a tracker showing who's currently being picked, I can't find it. Maybe they are doing this to prevent other sites from picking up this info? I can't find a working tracker on CBS or ESPN either.
    mlb.com main page in the center has a link for the tracker. It is not live so you have to go back and recheck the page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicksaviking View Post
    Does anyone have a draft tracker? All I can get is the live feed from MLB's website but if they are providing a tracker showing who's currently being picked, I can't find it. Maybe they are doing this to prevent other sites from picking up this info? I can't find a working tracker on CBS or ESPN either.
    http://minnesota.twins.mlb.com/mlb/e...raftcaster.jsp

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    None of the college pitchers have particularly great strikeout rates. All around one per inning, which is good but not great for a pro prospect. Melotakis' is a little higher but against mediocre competition, and of course all of them mostly worked in relief.

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    What are they playing at?! I wanted gausman in the first round because he was a starter! Then they take a outfielder but o well we have plenty other high picks to invest on starters. We have not drafted a starting prospect yet! In the first 2 and comp rounds! What is there deal. I no fans don't know as much as scouts and front office personnel, but any dummy can see that we haven't addressed a single need yet. What a joke. I can't believe I've let myself be fooled into thinking they realize that they need to change their philosophy in order to save our minor league system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gernzy View Post
    Relievers can turn into starters. Remember Santana was in the bullpen?

    Remember this is a draft. No player is a lock to make The Show.
    OK, tell me then...now which of these illustrious top 100 picks is the next Johan?

    The only thing I see is the Twins are thinking they have been repeatedly burned by drafting "proven starters" who burned up their arms and ended up needing TJ surgery or worse and have come to the conclusion that "less is more"...

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    I think the strategy is to draft good arms. Regardless of how they were used in college or High school. If they kid has a good arm, we can use them. I wouldn't get too worked up about the lack of starting experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old nurse View Post
    mlb.com main page in the center has a link for the tracker. It is not live so you have to go back and recheck the page.
    Thanks, I had collapsed that part of the page thinking it was just a pop up for their advertiser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minn55441 View Post
    I think the strategy is to draft good arms. Regardless of how they were used in college or High school. If they kid has a good arm, we can use them. I wouldn't get too worked up about the lack of starting experience.
    Amen to that. I especially liked a comment I read on an MLB.com scouting report about a guy who "has a frame that projects like Brendan Morrow". Huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
    OK, tell me then...now which of these illustrious top 100 picks is the next Johan?

    The only thing I see is the Twins are thinking they have been repeatedly burned by drafting "proven starters" who burned up their arms and ended up needing TJ surgery or worse and have come to the conclusion that "less is more"...
    None are the next Johan. Plus there were ZERO proven starters in this draft anyways. Like Minn55441 said draft good arms and see what happens.
    I bent my wookie...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gernzy View Post
    None are the next Johan. Plus there were ZERO proven starters in this draft anyways. Like Minn55441 said draft good arms and see what happens.
    Probably unfair then, to use the Santana illustration in your initial analysis.

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    If a player's college team doesn't like him as a starter, doesn't that indicate something? Ga. Tech maybe is one thing, but Northwestern State? What's next, a guy who wasn't good enough to start for his high school?

    The advantage to college players is theoretically that they are less risky and closer to the Bigs. But taking on projects adds risk and development time.

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    Wow...love the Adam Walker pick. Player with the best power in the draft. Compared to Stanton? That would be something.
    I bent my wookie...

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    You people are so damn negative. I was just saying that relievers can be turned into starters. If you hate the way we draft go be a Yankee fan...geez
    I bent my wookie...

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    Adam Walker's dad was RB for the Vikings. No, not Herschel.
    http://www.judolphins.com/baseball/roster/140/2401/

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    Here are Walker's stats at JU this year:

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    avg gp-gs ab r h 2b 3b hr rbi tb slg% bb hbp so gdp ob% sf sh sb-att po a e fld%
    WALKER, Adam Brett
    .343 56-56 210 44 72 14 0 12 42 122 .581 29 2 47 3 .426 1 0 19-20 391 17 11 .974

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    Obviously they will give most if not all these guys a chance to start. The Twins do not have much of a history of doing this but they are attempting to do it with both Boer and Boyd, both profiled as relievers last year. They also gave Gutierez a shot to start coming out of Miami. Hopefully the results are better this time around. I think most of the frustration comes from the passing on names people are more familiar with. I just wonder if these guys still have "power" arms when they get converted to starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gernzy View Post
    You people are so damn negative. I was just saying that relievers can be turned into starters. If you hate the way we draft go be a Yankee fan...geez
    On a more positive note, it was just tweeted that the pitcher from Rice projects as a major leaguer by this September, which probably means we'll see Chargois in a Twins uniform by 2015...

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