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    1. Change the draft. Allow the worst 10 teams to sign any two players they want before any other team. Give them 2 weeks to negotiate any price they want. After that, it is a draft, with slots for salaries. Allow trades of picks and picked players once they are picked.
    2. DH for both leagues. It is not more exciting to watch a double switch than allowing legit hitters to hit 5 times a game. There isn't all that much added strategy, because a huge percent of the time, there is only one logical choice.
    3. Intentional walks are automatic. While you are at it, runners don't have to run every base on a HR (ok, that ones not totally serious).
    4. Every team makes the playoffs. This one is complex, and I'll have to dig it up off Fangraphs.....and is way too controversial to happen.
    Lighten up Francis....

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    If it is deemed that a batter was intentionally hit by a pitch (the crew chief gets to make this judgement call). The pitcher will not be ejected, but as punishment the team who had their batter get hit gets to use aluminum bats the rest of the game. This is of course a joke.

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    Only one base on a overthrow

    oh oh oh and peg outs!

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    In all seriousness, I'm not sure how to make a pitch f/x computerize strike zone work, but I'm becoming more receptive to the idea. The reason is because of how poorly umps call the outside corner. Most umps set up on the inside corner and have a great view of that corner, but really guess/estimate on the outside corner. There are way too many balls outside being called strikes, especially against our lefties. Tennis has successfully appropriated technology in support of human line judges to call the lines on a serve. I think you could have a computer call the outside corner in this same way, or this would be like only using the technology to call the service box line deep, but not the center line. I only want the outside corner called by technology to begin with to see how it goes, and I really don't see how to computerize the strike zone high and low since batters are different heights, therefore while the corners are the same for eery hitter, hight and low strike differ and would be more problematic for a computerized system to call. Last, you still need a human ump to call safe and out on the base baths after a ball is in play. Just like the variety in stadiums, I used to really enjoy the human variety of different strike zones... but the more I've seen with the pitch location technology and with my own eye, I think a consistent and accurate strike zone would be just swell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby_Waved_At_Me View Post
    Award two bases for an intentional walk - I've seen that written a few times in other places, and I like the idea as a way to encourage the players/managers to pitch to guys in key situations.
    It wouldn't work, teams would simply "unintentionally" walk a guy on purpose anyways by throwing everything 2 feet above the strike zone.

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    on trading draft picks in MLB - vote yes! with some reservations

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    Trades in the draft, it's so dumb that we are the only sport that can't trade picks.
    There were a few incidents where not-as-yet drafted players "held up" the team(s) that were looking to draft them by making specific demands. The rule that disallows MLB teams from trading a draft pick the first year resulted from Pete Incaviglia's refusal to play in Montreal. But - we've seen similar behavior in other sports, and they seem to survive - Elway forcing his way out of somewhere to get a mile high, Manning Eli escaping San Diego for New York (which is only sane in NFL-World), Kobe finagling a deal to LA right out of high school.

    Maybe now that baseball's collective bargaining agreement is long-term and relations between the players and the owners, and more importantly among the owners themselves, is stable, maybe this would be the right time for baseball to revisit and perhaps repeal the Incavigilia Rule. I'd be for that, perhaps with the NBA's Musselman Rule attached, that a team cannot be without a first round draft pick two years in a row. By trade, that is - the Musselman Rule offers no protection when you sign an illegal agreement and it gets discovered in an agent's file and Commissioner Napoleon goes ballistic on you.

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    Couple things:

    1. I think trading MLB draft picks would prove to be a bad idea, with richer teams ending up with an even bigger advantage than they already have. One think I'd like to see eliminated somehow is the "sandwich picks" inserted after a round, which devalue the picks in later rounds, mostly at the expense of teams that had nothing to do with the transaction that resulted in the sandwich pick being awarded. Team A signs team B's free agent, team A gets a sandwich pick, the Twins end up picking one spot later in round two. Why should the Twins second round pick be devalued because another team signed a FA?

    2. Technically, there really isn't such a thing as an "intentional base on balls." It's not even defined in the MLB rule book's official list of terms, where a base on balls is defined as four pitches outside the strike zone. It's mentioned in rule four, briefly, but only to confirm that only the catcher can position himself in foul territory, but must start play in his legal position behind the plate. So I don't know how you increase the penalty for something that doesn't exist. As noted above, teams would just have the catcher squat and have the pitcher throw a foot high and outside anyway. I'm not sure why anyone thinks this is a problem, anyway. Intentionally putting a runner on base is enough penalty in and of itself. And absolutely the pitcher should have to throw those four pitches. I've seen wild pitches occur in these situations, most of you have too.

    3. I wouldn't mind seeing the balk rule simplified, but I'm not even sure how to do that.
    Last edited by USAFChief; 05-24-2012 at 11:56 PM.

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    I can't remember the last time MLB had a major "rule" change, which indicates they have the formula correct.

    Couple things that I wouldn't mind would be:
    -Expanding the major league roster to 26.
    -Get rid of pitchers hitting- Now that interleague play will be going on at all points throughout the season (2013+) its time to stop having pitchers hit, I honestly don't see the point. People argue that it adds strategy or whatever to a game, I just think it adds a Drew Butera to the bottom of the lineup for every team. If its game 7 of the world series I don't think we need to see CC Sabathia and Clayton Kershaw taking at bats in the most meaningful game of the year.

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    I love the way the game is played, and I don't think many changes need to be made. Although, I do have a few to throw out there. The rules that involve time limits posters have suggested are not in the best interest of the game. I feel that they would make baseball a little too artificial. After all, it is one of the only sports that doesn't have a game clock and that's one of the reasons why it's the greatest sport. With that said, here are a few rule changes I'll offer.
    1. Allow rule 4 draft picks outside of round 1 to be traded. The only exception for trading first rounders is if they were acquired by a team through losing a Type A free agent. That pick may only be traded back to its former team (or the team who signed the Type A FA). Supplemental picks can be traded as well. Rule 5 draft picks do not apply as I'd like them to stay similar to waiver claims.
    2. Instant replay expansion. Baserunning calls behind home plate only for safe/out. All fair/foul hits under the consent of the corresponding 1st base/3rd base umpire.
    3. Stricter umpire regulations. The MLB needs to be harsher when reviewing umpires. The 90% rule mentioned by another poster is a start.
    4. Limit pick off attempts to 3 per base runner.
    Last edited by YourHouseIsMyHouse; 05-25-2012 at 10:50 AM.

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    So, as a runner, once the pitcher has thrown over 3 times, I can get as big a lead as I want, right?
    Lighten up Francis....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
    So, as a runner, once the pitcher has thrown over 3 times, I can get as big a lead as I want, right?
    The pitcher can still step off the mound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestTwinsFan View Post
    I'll admit, the added strategy of an NL game is interesting, but I'm not paying to see players who are either going to bunt or strike out on 3 pitches every time.
    Bill James had some interesting analysis of the "more strategy" claim. While there were more bunts and more pinch-hitters used in the NL, the variation in numbers between the teams was far greater. This is paraphrase of his conclusion, since I don't have the book in front of me: "If there is strategy in the act of bunting or in the act of using a pinch-hitter, then there is more strategy in the NL. If the strategy is in the decision whether or not to bunt or use a pinch-hitter, then there is far more strategy in the AL." His point is that most of the moves in the NL are automatic, leaving very little flexibility for actual strategic decisions.

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestTwinsFan View Post
    I'd rather see guys who are paid to hit in the batter's box.
    Like Drew Butera? (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by YourHouseIsMyHouse View Post
    The pitcher can still step off the mound.
    And? The runner won't have to be worried about him throwing over at that point. I understand its annoying when a guy throws over a bunch, but it really is pretty rare.
    If you are trying to say they need to say they need to do it to speed up the game I could somewhat understand, but in the same post you said they need to expand instant replay which ends up slowing up the game significantly more then the 3 throw over rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
    And? The runner won't have to be worried about him throwing over at that point. I understand its annoying when a guy throws over a bunch, but it really is pretty rare.
    If you are trying to say they need to say they need to do it to speed up the game I could somewhat understand, but in the same post you said they need to expand instant replay which ends up slowing up the game significantly more then the 3 throw over rule.
    I'd rather have time going into getting a call right that could change the game than having to watch a pitcher and runner play games with each other. You say that it's really rare which is a pretty invalid point. If it never happens anyway, what is the harm of having that rule? It's just a formality to prevent the 9 time occurrences that DO happen. Seriously, no one likes when it happens. Even fans in attendance start booing after around the 3rd time. Stepping off the mound is completely different than trying to fake out a runner with a windup and a pickoff. It's much less time consuming and the pitcher can still throw over if the runner refuses to budge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
    And? The runner won't have to be worried about him throwing over at that point.
    Once the pitcher steps off the rubber he is considered an infielder holding onto the ball. He could throw over without being charged with a throw over. Or he could run at the runner and then throw.
    "Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand."

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    The DH as we have known it for 40 years needs a makeover. An earlier poster referenced Bill James' analysis of baseball purists wanting to keep the "strategies" in the game, but aptly pointing out how it mostly preserves predictable and boring non-strategy. How about reconsidering the DH in terms of adding strategies instead of adding offense as was the case in '73?

    Get rid of the "professional DH" by reconsidering the DH as a "designated pinch hitter" for the pitcher's batting slot only, but adding 2 components:

    1) Once the DPH hits for the pitcher, he (the DPH) is no longer eligible unless he goes into the game at a position and the new pitcher is slotted into the batting position of the player who is being replaced by the DPH - nothing more than the double switch that purists love.

    2) Reserve to the judgement of the manager, whether a DPH is used every time the pitcher's slot comes around.

    The result is that the game situation would drive and dictate the strategy of whether to use a player off the bench - thus losing him for the rest of the game unless it is a double switch - so the manager may elect to allow the pitcher to bat with 2-out and the bases empty to preserve his bench's potential for a more critical spot or he could bring in a real hitter with 2-out and the bases juiced in the 6th inning of a 1-1 tie without losing his pitcher. The manager, and by extension, the fans are constantly evaluating each at bat situation for the pitcher - use a hitter and lose him most of the time or stick with the pitcher who could also bunt men over efficiently rather than burning the bench for a low priority situational strategy. Another example would be pitcher leading off in a close game - later innings, but the pitcher is still effective; bring in a DPH who is a swift, OBP type guy to get an inning started BUT keep your pitcher or bring in a big thumper DPH to get someone in scoring position BUT keep the pitcher.

    The strategy scenarios would multiply, not decrease - and from a purist standpoint it would not create one-dimensional DH's getting 500 at bats, but more use of benches which would need more multi-dimensional players, while valuing pitchers who had enough skill to bunt rather than watching them strike out.

    Just my thoughts

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    I have two rules I'd like to propose:

    1) Ban the Wave. It is pathetic , but even worse when it is a 1-0 game that I'm trying to watch and can't see because people are standing up when every pitch happens. Or the person starting the wave is incessantly screaming in my ear.

    2) Ban wedding proposals. The first time was pretty good, but it happens at every game now.

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    1. Improve umpiring accuracy and consistency (and call "high" strikes)
    2. Eliminate instant replay
    3. Reduce time between innings
    4. Eliminate pre-recorded music played over PA
    5. Batter must receive permission from umpire to step out of batters box after non-batted ball
    6. Eliminate DH
    7. 99 cent hot dogs all the time!

    Not necessarily in that order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
    -Expanding the major league roster to 26.
    How about this - in an effort to shorten the season, so as not to have to schedule games in November which, global climate change and all that aside, is probably not the best plan for most places north of St.Louis at that time of year based on our weather experiences to-date - increase the roster to 26 but only from Mother's Day thru the last weekend before the All-Star Game, AND schedule a split doubleheader every Saturday during that stretch. That would shorten the season by one week. Teams could carry an extra pitcher without damaging their bench. During that stretch all players on the roster get double-time credit for major league service.

    Point being - if MLB wants more playoffs, and they don't want to have games amidst swirling snow, do something to get the season moving along. And since you pretty much can't schedule double-headers without an agreement with the player's union, give them something back - more playoff $$s, of course, and more playing time service during that stretch that will shorten the time players have to be in the majors to be arbitration eligible (Super 2s?) and shorter routes to pension-eligibility.

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    WOW--lots of good ideas. Being a traditionalist--the first thought I had is not there. That is BAN INTERLEAGUE games. I know thats a problem since next year, there will be interleague every day. But you have two teams fighting for a division title playing different schedules--say Tigers and Twins. Add 2 teams--go back to 4 divisions of 8 teams and the 4 division winners make the playoffs. Every division team plays the same number of games against the teams in the other division of the league. So both Twins and Tigers play the Red Sox and Yanks the same number of games. NO WILD CARDS.

    Speed up games by enforcing the 25 second pitching rule and reducing the ad time for bullpen calls (I would like to see the time between half innings go back to ONE MINUTE but I know that will never happen with TV).

    Allow trading of draft picks--why not be like other sports.

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