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Thread: Jack Goin discusses Twins job opening, etc. (Was: All right all you geniuses...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan View Post
    Another question Jack, have you ever read through our game threads here? Lots of good entertainment.
    Oh gawd.... we spent the entire game last night discussing fabric for curtains. For real. (I almost said seriously, but there were jokes sprinkled in.)

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    This is the best Twins Daily thread I've ever read. Thank you, Jack. In case you happen to come back...

    For food, get the rib tips from Butcher and the Boar out on the RF plaza. Best thing I've ever had in any MLB ballpark.

    For a question or two...
    How much does your research team interact with counterparts from other MLB teams and are your methods/approaches tightly guarded or do you discuss on some level?
    As you create new data analysis or reports or best practices, does the Baseball Operations team come to you and say "hey, we want to see (this)" or does your team go to them and say "hey, we have this info" or a combination of both?

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    Here's my question, Jack, and thanks for answering these questions, really interesting and fun stuff. With the Twins hopefully being active as sellers in the next three weeks, how much time do you anticipate getting with Terry Ryan with any potential trade targets you may have identified through your research? Do you have a couple of guys in other teams farm systems that you think are worth making a play for, that TR might not normally be interested in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay View Post
    This is the best Twins Daily thread I've ever read. Thank you, Jack. In case you happen to come back...

    For food, get the rib tips from Butcher and the Boar out on the RF plaza. Best thing I've ever had in any MLB ballpark.

    For a question or two...
    How much does your research team interact with counterparts from other MLB teams and are your methods/approaches tightly guarded or do you discuss on some level?
    As you create new data analysis or reports or best practices, does the Baseball Operations team come to you and say "hey, we want to see (this)" or does your team go to them and say "hey, we have this info" or a combination of both?
    Both sides bring suggestions. I talk with our Major League staff periodically about data they want/need and try to get that to them. I talk to our Director of Pro Scouting about everyday, sometimes twice per day. We discuss a variety of topics including analytics, scouting philosophies, how to incorporate the two. Terry asks my opinion on players from a statistical viewpoint. Brad Steil our Director of Minor League asks me for various projects. Sometimes we just do research we are interested in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashburyjohn View Post
    I think I may have seriously misunderestimated your skill set.

    / channeling Yogi a little there...
    Thanks but it's pretty limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Goin View Post
    ....

    I'm not familiar with Out of The Park baseball.

    Ben Revere joke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D. Hocking View Post
    I am pretty sure someone here can do this.



    • Must be able to sit for extended periods of time.
    But the part about "must be able to lift 55 Lbs" is a stretch
    "If I knew the world would end tomorrow, I would still plant a tree today."

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    Would you say you spend more time and/or effort evaluating Twins players, or players from around the league?

    Do you spend much time evaluating minor leaguers?
    Every post is not every other post. - a wise man

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    Would you say you spend more time and/or effort evaluating Twins players, or players from around the league?

    Do you spend much time evaluating minor leaguers?
    Define evaluate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Goin View Post
    Define evaluate.
    Your move, Chief.

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    Jack, thanks for spending time with us and answering questions.

    SSS but have you noticed that you have the highest "Liked" to "Number of Posts" ratio on Twins Daily? Do you think you've earned a promotion from Single A as a result?

    I do, I like to ride the hot hand and challenge the minor leaguers.

    Also a serious question. In what ways has game day evolved with the ever increasing availability of information. We all see the defensive shifts, and some platoons, but does it get into identifying other trends, or even possibly identifying injury or improper mechanics or shifts in mechanics?
    "If I knew the world would end tomorrow, I would still plant a tree today."

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    I missed all the fun! I got a few for you Jack.

    First, do you consider WAR, especially combining WAR from year to year, a good way of evaluating a player's worth?

    Second, do you do any type of work with players/coaches on the Twins to help improve current players? Like a type of internal scouting?

    Going to bed, I'll post some better ones in the morning.
    Do or do not. There is no try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Goin View Post
    I'm not familiar with Out of The Park baseball.
    You're missing out. It's all the rage amongst us basement-dwelling baseball nerds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
    You're missing out. It's all the rage amongst us basement-dwelling baseball nerds.
    I do expect the trading AI you go up against, even on the difficult setting, would have a baseball insider saying, "uh, no, you couldn't get away with that".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Goin View Post
    Standard requirement for all job postings. That, along with ability to lift 55 lbs.
    I don't understand why you need to lift Ben Revere!
    A Skeleton walks into a bar and says... "Give me a beer... And a mop".

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    [in response to a joke since deleted...]

    Always has to be one guy who ruins it for everyone else.
    That is the only joke you could come up with ?
    Last edited by ashburyjohn; 07-10-2014 at 04:04 PM.

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    You guys are allowed to go out in public? I thought you couldn't leave your mom's basement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Goin View Post
    You guys are allowed to go out in public? I thought you couldn't leave your mom's basement?
    When the moon is just right and the parents are sleeping, I slip out the basement window and run naked to the nearest SABR convention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AM. View Post
    It's a legitimate debate for the taxpaying public to be considering, but I wouldn't expect Jack to comment given his position. But maybe he would want to bring back the trees!
    I think I can safely say that Jack, despite his friendly and open nature with the posters on this board, is not going to publicly comment on whether his boss should be fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
    I think I can safely say that Jack, despite his friendly and open nature with the posters on this board, is not going to publicly comment on whether his boss should be fired.
    For his sake, I hope not. Seems like he is savvy enough to persevere.

    But speaking of the trees (Brock, were you the "owner" who would bring them back?), here is some in-depth statistical analysis:

    Twins record with trees: 94-68
    Twins record without trees: 195-291 (or 236-340 as of today)

    Now that is some fun with numbers. I rest my case...bring back the trees!

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