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    25 man roster on August 31st

    I know there will be injuries, trades, and players released, but for fun I'd love to hear who everyone thinks will be on the active 25 man roster on August 31st, the day before rosters expand. I'll go first.

    C-Suzuki
    1B-Mauer
    2B-Dozier
    SS-Santana
    3B-Plouffe
    LF-Arcia
    CF-Fuld
    RF-Parmelee
    DH-Pinto
    Be-Escobar
    Be-Nunez
    Be-Colabello
    Be-Herrman

    SP-Hughes
    SP-Gibson
    SP-Nolasco
    SP-May
    SP-Darnell
    RP-Perkins
    RP-Burton
    RP-Swarzak
    RP-Fien
    RP-Deduno
    RP-Thielbar
    RP-Tonkin

    Traded: Willingham, Morales, Correia, Duensing
    Released: Guerrier
    Sept. Call-ups: Meyer, Pino, Fryer, Florimon, Sano?
    Notably not called-up: Hicks

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwinsTerritory View Post
    Sept. Call-ups: Meyer, Pino, Fryer, Florimon, Sano?
    Notably not called-up: Hicks
    Sano rehabbing at the MLB level would be a total surprise, I can't see any situation where that happens since he'll be lucky if he's even able to play simulated games by then, but that is a nice bold prediction. The Hicks non-call-up I'd agree with also. The Twins have refused to call up guys in their dog house the last several years.

    My guess:
    C-Suzuki
    1B-Mauer
    2B-Dozier
    SS-Escobar
    3B-Plouffe
    LF-Arcia
    CF-Santana
    RF-Parmelee
    DH-Colabello

    Be-Fuld
    Be-Romero
    Be-Florimon
    Be-Fryer

    SP-Hughes
    SP-Gibson
    SP-Meyer
    SP-May
    SP-Pino

    RP-Perkins
    RP-Burton
    RP-Swarzak
    RP-Pressly
    RP-Deduno
    RP-Thielbar
    RP-Hoffman

    Trade: Willingham, Morales, Correia, Duensing, Fein

    Call ups: Pinto, Herrmann, Achter, Tonkin, Iberra, Johnson and Vargas

    I'm probably in the minority and hope they sell high on Suzuki as I don't believe he's as good as he appears now, but I think they'll get suckered in due to his strong clubhouse presence, which in fairness, does have some value.

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    My guess

    C Pinto
    1B Mauer
    2B Dozier
    SS Escobar
    3B Plouffe
    RF Arcia
    CF Santana
    LF Parmelee
    DH Colabello
    BENCH Nunez, Fryer, Fuld, Herrmann

    SP
    Gibson
    Hughes
    Nolasco
    May
    Darnell

    BULLPEN
    Perkins
    Johnson
    Pino
    Tonkin
    Pressly
    Thielbar
    Deduno

    plus note that up to 8 of the above may not be needed for Twins 2015!

    Twins trading away alot of chips, especially Fien, who actually has value and do we want to chance that he becomes the next Burton?

    What becomes exciting in all of this is who the Twins add to the 40-man when they delete such names as Willingham, Suzucki, Morales, Correia, Dunesing, Swarzak, Burton, Guerrier.

    They are not going to add Sano and start his service time so soon after an injury. They won't add Hoffman, who is now in the Phillies organization. They might add back in folks like Aaron Thompson, Wilkin Ramirez, Chris Rahl, Doug Bernier...giving all a shot as a September call-up with little hopes of maintaining a roster spot come winter. The TWIS do not have to add ANY Meyers and such until the winter, truly, really. Why would they at this moment when the end of the season the Twins can see what Darnell, Johnson, Pino, Tonkin and such will bring to the team or if they bring any value. And, again, many of these 40-man add names, would become minor free agent if not extended.

    Yes, would love to see the Twins revert to rebuild mode if they stink come August end and give Buxton and Sano and Rosario and any otehr names at bats, or Berrios and Stewart innings, or maybe even give Kepler a taste so he knows what he has to play for i the next couple of years if he wants to stay a Twin.

    Of course, this assumes that most ALL the players the Twins cwould get in return are not 40-man men...yet!
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    I like Nick's a lot, other than I think Arcia should stay in RF, because that is where he will be next year, imo. And, I'd like more turnover in the RP.

    I am really waffling on Suzuki, depending on their willingness to actually play Pinto at C.
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    Doesn't Suzuki have to stay on the roster even into next year simply because Pinto is not much with the glove? Or will his bat make up for that? Personally I do not think so.

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    I'll take a stab:

    C-Pinto, Herrmann
    INF-Mauer, Dozier, Nuñez, Escobar, Santana, Plouffe
    OF--Fuld, Parmelee, Arcia, Rosario
    DH--Colabello

    SP--Hughes, Gibson, Nolasco, May, K Johnson
    RP-Pino, Swarzak, Deduno, Thielbar, A Thompson, Tonkin, Perkins

    This would mean that the following have been moved: Suzuki, Willingham, Morales, Correia, Duensing, Burton, Fien. In actuality, if that many guys are moved, I would expect some of the players received in return to be on the roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguy10 View Post
    Doesn't Suzuki have to stay on the roster even into next year simply because Pinto is not much with the glove? Or will his bat make up for that? Personally I do not think so.
    Accentuate the positive! I don't think Pinto is that bad at all. He works hard, is pretty good at blocking pitches and his throwing problems really aren't due to his arm strength. Learning on the job from August 1st would be fine.

    Trying to find a defense-first receiver would be a top priority this off-season if it is deemed that Pinto is that far away. I suspect the verdict will be that he still needs work, but with better than average hitting would translate to an acceptable first string catcher.
    Last edited by stringer bell; 07-08-2014 at 05:03 PM.

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    C - Pinto, Herrmann, Fryer
    INF - Mauer, Dozier, Santana, Plouffe, Nunez, Escobar
    OF - Parmelee, Fuld, Arcia
    DH - Colabello

    SP - Hughes, Gibson, May, Johnson, Deduno (Nolasco DL)
    RP - Perkins, Tonkin, Swarzak, Guerrier, Meyer, Thielbar, Darnell

    Moved/DFA - Suzuki, Willingham, Morales, Correia, Fien, Duensing, Burton

    September call-ups - Florimon, Vargas, Pino, Pressly
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    Quote Originally Posted by drjim View Post
    C - Pinto, Herrmann, Fryer
    INF - Mauer, Dozier, Santana, Plouffe, Nunez, Escobar
    OF - Parmelee, Fuld, Arcia
    DH - Colabello

    SP - Hughes, Gibson, May, Johnson, Deduno (Nolasco DL)
    RP - Perkins, Tonkin, Swarzak, Guerrier, Meyer, Thielbar, Darnell

    Moved/DFA - Suzuki, Willingham, Morales, Correia, Fien, Duensing, Burton

    September call-ups - Florimon, Vargas, Pino, Pressly

    If Collabello (31 yrs old next Spring) doesn't hit in this call up. . will he be outrighted by Sept 1 (remember they offered him to a Korean team for $1M) and either Rodriguez or Romero given a shot for 30 games in September before they become minor league Free Agents?

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    I love this stuff. It's like scribbling on napkins, but now I get to toss it out there for everyone to see. LOL

    C= Suzuki (stays) Herrmann. (Let's Pinto play daily until September)
    1B=Mauer
    2B=Dozier
    SS=Escobar...mostly
    3B=Plouffe
    Ut=Nunez

    RF=Arcia
    CF=Santana (also at SS) and Fuld
    LF=Parmelee

    Rest=Colabello and Morales (strong hunches)

    SP=Hughes
    SP=Nolasco (healthy again)
    SP=Gibson
    SP=May (I think it's time and real)
    SP=Pino (Deduno? Pino is the new Deduno until September barring injury?)

    RP=Perkins
    RP=Fien (foolish to trade him)
    RP=Duensing (sorry haters, but he's solid)
    RP=Thielbar (talented, will get better, part of the future)
    RP=Swarzak (somewhat down this year, but a solid fixture)
    RP=Deduno (Pino?)
    RP=Burton or Guerrier (don't see both unless something happens with Pino, Deduno or injury)

    A trade could bring back a ML ready OF.

    Correia, Willingham are traded, possibly Burton.

    I think Suzuki and Morales stay.

    September brings up Pinto, Meyer for a taste out of the pen, Tonkin, Achter, Darnell and Johnson.
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    I'd like to see Polanco get another taste in September, maybe Rosario if he hits for the next 2 months. I also expect Hicks to remain in the doghouse in September.

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    Forget August 31st. Here's the roster I'd like to see on August 1st:

    SS-Santana
    1B-Mauer
    2B-Dozier
    RF-Arcia
    C-Pinto
    DH-Vargas
    3B-Plouffe
    LF-Parmalee
    CF-Rosario

    Bench:
    -Hermann
    -Escobar
    -Nunez
    -Colabello

    Rotation:
    -Hughes
    -Gibson
    -May
    -Meyer
    -Pinto/Johnson/Darnell

    Bullpen:
    -Perkins
    -Fien
    -Theilbar
    -Darnel
    -Tonkin
    -Deduno
    -Presley

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    Here is what I believe it will be, not if I was GM, but where we will be with TR as GM and Gardenhire still as manager...

    C Suzuki, Fryer
    1B Mauer
    2B Dozier
    SS Escobar, Santana, Nunez
    3B Plouffe
    RF Arcia
    LF Parmalee
    CF Fuld
    DH Colabello

    SP Hughes
    SP Nolasco
    SP Gibson
    SP May
    SP Pick One (Pino, Johnson, Gilmartin, Darnell, Deduno)

    RP Perkins
    RP Thielbar
    RP Duensing
    RP Swarzak
    RP Burton
    RP Tonkin
    RP Fien
    RP Deduno (If starting, Hermann will be up at catch)

    Meyer on Pitch limit will be unavailable until call ups at which point he will get a cup of coffee in the bull pen.

    Only trades will be Willingham, Correia, and Morales.

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    Might as well take a shot.
    C - Suzuki, Fryer
    1B Mauer
    2B Escobar
    SS Santana
    3B Plouffe - would like to see him traded Probably not enough value in return
    RF Arcia
    CF Rosaro - placeholder for Buxton
    LF Parmelee
    DH Colobello
    Bench Nunez, Fuld. Morales - not enough value to trade

    SP Hughes
    SP Gibson
    SP Nolasco - if healthy
    SP May
    SP Pino

    RP Perkins
    RP Burton
    RP Thielbar
    RP Deduno if not starting
    RP Swarzak
    RP Presley
    RP Achter
    RP Darnell

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    What should be:

    C - Pinto
    1B - Mauer
    2B - Dozier
    3B - Plouffe
    SS - Santana
    LF - Parmelee
    CF - Hicks
    RF - Arcia
    DH - Colabello

    B - Escobar
    B - Fuld
    B - Herrmann
    B - Nunez

    SP - Hughes, Gibson, May, Nolasco, Meyer
    Bullpen - Deduno, Oliveros, Swarzak, Achter, Thielbar, Tonkin, Perkins

    Traded: Willingham, Suzuki, Morales, Correia, Duensing, Fien (think two good prospects in the top 250 overall, and a few more in the top 500 overall).

    Gone: Burton, Fryer, Guerrier

    I feel like I am forgetting somebody else who will be gone, but whatever.

    Also: September calls should go to Rohlfing, Romero, Guerra, Darnell, Beresford, and Ortiz.
    Last edited by Shane Wahl; 07-08-2014 at 11:44 PM.

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    Add Vargas as a callup

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    By August 31'st this is all gut based hypothesizing, but enjoyable and intriguing nonetheless.

    C- Chris Herrmann (just a small gut feeling he takes the job for a while)
    1B- Joe Mauer
    2B- Brian Dozier
    3B- Trevor Plouffe
    SS- Danny Santana
    LF- Chris Colabello
    CF- Sam Fuld
    RF- Oswaldo Arcia
    DH- Josmil Pinto

    Bench: Escobar, Nunez, Fryer, (Parmelee, W. Ramirez, E. Farris, D. Ortiz)

    Rotation: Hughes, Gibson, Nolasco (just back from DL), May, Darnell
    -Note: Kris Johnson/Logan Darnell start in place of Nolasco while on DL

    Bullpen: Perkins, Fien, Thielbar, Swarzak, Pressly, Tonkin, Johnson

    Traded: Willingham, Correia, Morales, Duensing, Burton, Suzuki, Deduno

    Gone somehow: Guerrier

    Call-Ups: Farris (if not already on the bench), Polanco, Achter, Romero, Vargas, Hamburger/Thompson/Pino, Ibarra
    -Note: I would like to see Beresford, Guerra, and Gilmartin, but 10 call ups is far more than likely. Also note that there is no Meyer, because I believe he will get a look before August 31'st and reach an innings limit/is shut down. If he is around by the end of the season I don't belive he will be used much at all.

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    Interesting lineups all but hopefully come spring of 2015 any of these predictions will be wrong or next season will easily be another 90+ loss fiasco. Plus just about everyone is predicting that when Sano and Buxton and Meyer and May are up for good (2016 & beyond) a contending team will ensue. It will take much more than just those four players for excellence to start happening at Target Field. Hopefully Twins management can cobble it all together effectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguy10 View Post
    Interesting lineups all but hopefully come spring of 2015 any of these predictions will be wrong or next season will easily be another 90+ loss fiasco. Plus just about everyone is predicting that when Sano and Buxton and Meyer and May are up for good (2016 & beyond) a contending team will ensue. It will take much more than just those four players for excellence to start happening at Target Field. Hopefully Twins management can cobble it all together effectively.
    This is the best comment. You can't trade everyone that has value for prospects and expect to be competitive next year or in 2016. The Twins won't be able to get high ceiling major league ready prospects for guys like Fien or Suzuki - they'll only bring high ceiling guys in A ball, if that, or decent higher level prospects. Why trade an established major league player for that unless you really want to start over? Suzuki stays and gets a 2 year reasonable value contract; Fien stays. Willingham and Correia go. Morales goes unless he'll sign now (would be great, but unlikely), and Duensing, Burton, and deduno go if we can get a good return, otherwise stay. roster:

    C - Suzuki, Chris Herrmann
    1B- Mauer
    2B- Dozier
    3B- Plouffe
    SS- Escobar/Nunez (UT)
    LF- Parmalee
    CF- Santana/Fuld (4th OF)
    RF- Oswaldo Arcia
    DH-Colabello/ Pinto

    Bench: Nunez, Fuld, Colabello/Pinto, Herrman

    Rotation: Hughes, Gibson, Nolasco (just back from DL), May, Darnell/Pino/Kris Johnson ( whoever does the best in their 3-4 start try-outs, 2 of them if Nolasco is out for awhile)

    BP - Perkins, Fien, Theilbar, Swarzak, Deduno, Pressly, Achter, one of the losers from the Pino/Johnson/Darnell starter sweepstakes.

    Meyer gets a bullpen taste in September. I'd also like to se them give Robinson (AAA 3rd baseman) a taste to see how he hits. That may happen if trades are made so he can go on the 40 man roster. It would let the Twins know if either he or Plouffe is a viable trade piece in the off season.

    traded - Willingham, Correia, Duensing, Burton, Morales - all for prospects. Hopefully at least one prospect will be CF so Santana can move to SS and Escobar can be a UT along with Nunez. New CF prospect means either Fuld or the loser of the Colabello/Parmalee race goes, probably Fuld.

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    Always scary putting thoughts down permanently on such a volatile situation as the Twins 25 man roster. First a quick question, when was the last time a team moved 6+ players at the deadline? Suzuki, Willingham, Morales, Correia, Duensing, Fien or Burton might all draw interest but they're not all going to get moved. Even if they all had suitors and deals to match the Twins aren't the Cubs/Astros/Marlins. They just won't move that many veterans.

    Alright putting my own thoughts down.

    C: Suzuki
    1B: Mauer
    2B: Dozier
    SS: Santana
    3B: Plouffe
    LF: Parmelee
    CF: Hicks
    RF: Arcia
    DH: Vargas

    Bench: Nunez, Fryer, Escobar, Colabello

    SP: Hughes
    SP: Correia
    SP: Nolasco (or Meyer if Nolasco spends significant time on DL)
    SP: Gibson
    SP: May

    RP: Perkins
    RP: Fien
    RP: Thielbar
    RP: Swarzak
    RP: Pressly
    RP: Tonkin
    RP: Ibarra

    I think Duensing, Morales and Willingham get traded. Correia is bad enough that he isn't tradeable but not terrible enough to out right cut him. Burton and Deduno get DFA'd. I think the Twins realize that Meyer and May are the future and they will get the starts instead of Pino/Johnson assuming it's more than a spot start or two. Logan Darnell could go to the bullpen instead of Ibarra. I fully expect Hicks to be recalled at the beginning of August. The Twins don't have any other CF close (despite the wishes of the Twins public and perhaps FO too). He is only 24 and he is starting to show he can hit AA pitching again. In a lost season there is no reason he doesn't get another shot (unless he is really scuffling in the minors). I'm probably a little bullish on Vargas. It's more likely that Colabello is at DH with Vargas at AAA.
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