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    There may be no more overblown sports meme in Minnesota than "you have to have an ace to win a WS"

    What you need is a minimum of bad players and a lot of playoff luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeviathan View Post
    There may be no more overblown sports meme in Minnesota than "you have to have an ace to win a WS"

    What you need is a minimum of bad players and a lot of playoff luck.
    Agreed. Good players are a necessity. Great players are a bonus that help you advance but are hardly necessary if the team is firing on all cylinders.

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    When you look at Levi's list of top performing pitchers in a World Series on another thread, of the 10 pitchers listed only 2 were high priced free agents . It provides an argument that the free agent might not put you over the top and the need for several high quality starters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wise One View Post
    When you look at Levi's list of top performing pitchers in a World Series on another thread, of the 10 pitchers listed only 2 were high priced free agents . It provides an argument that the free agent might not put you over the top and the need for several high quality starters.
    This is a far better interpretation of what I was saying, thank you.

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    Winning the WS--a best of seven--can fairly be looked at as "anything can happen."

    But you have to get there, which is much less of a crapshoot. Having an "ace" means you take the field 30 plus times during the season pretty much guaranteed of having the better starter on the mound. That's a big leg up on getting into the craps game that is the post season, not to mention the postseason is now three series long, where the advantage of an ace is again magnified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    That's a big leg up on getting into the craps game that is the post season, not to mention the postseason is now three series long, where the advantage of an ace is again magnified.
    While I agree with most everything you say, I think that last line is where my feathers get ruffled a bit. Aces haven't shown to be that kind of force anymore with the way teams insist on resting them. If they were, Detroit would have a WS title to their credit by now.

    One thing that has won out lately is quality depth in a rotation. So I'd have to challenge the notion that investing in a true number 1 is worth it when it might force you to have weaker mid-rotation pitching. Maybe instead the real goal is to try and get good 2s?

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    Johan Santana was the best pitcher in baseball from 2004-2006 and it's not really close.

    He's 1-3 in postseason play.

    Aces can help. They guarantee absolutely nothing.

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