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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshii View Post
    We should all show up to his daughter's graduation and be like, "WTF GARDY, DO YOUR ****ING JOB!"

    Graduations mean nothing if the team you are managing is doing poorly imo.

    I do agree with you though in that the last thing Gardy needs is a break, he should be working harder!Attachment 854
    I sincerely hope that you do not have any children. I mean that with all due respect. On a side note, I am pretty sure that this will be a working vacation for Gardy. Do you honestly believe that he won't be in contact with the coaches, giving them input, and making plans for when he comes back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by twinsnorth49 View Post
    Exactly where they should be, with his family, just like anyone else with half a brain and an ounce of personal integrity.
    Agreed, I don't get how this is a problem for anyone.
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    Whether It be Gardy, Ullger, Ted Danson or the ghost of Milton Berle managing, it would not make a single difference. Hell, I could throw a handful of rocks onto the field at Safeco and they would perform better than the players we are putting out there right now. Although... it might be entertaining to watch Ullger the Weird's post game Q&A sessions on FSN this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrylos98 View Post
    Gardenhire's daughter is graduating from Southwest Minnesota State University at Marshall, MN. Commencement is at 10 AM Saturday and would probably last a couple of hours.

    Delta has a red eye leaving at 12:40 AM on Saturday morning from Seattle arriving in Minneapolis at 5:45 AM (DL 1014), plenty of time to make it to Marshall by 10 AM. Also is has a 2:30 PM direct flight from Minneapolis to Seattle arriving there at 3:55 PM (DL 2237), in plenty of time to make the game on Saturday (5:10 PM local start).

    As I showed above , there is a way to make it to the graduation and do his job. Nice for Gardy to have a 3 day vacation while his team is struggling. Especially when the team is doing so badly. I hope that the Twins make his vacation permanent. He shows where his priorities are...
    ---Wow, we're really taking the anti-Gardy thing to new highs (or lows as the case may be). Is this the new Gardy criticism? He cares too much about being a Dad?

    Nice try at the timeline, but I would withhold applying for any job openings as a travel secretary if I were you.

    Even if we were indulge your rather fantastic assumptions that

    1) Gardy could manage a game in Seattle on Friday night and get to his daughter's graduation by 10 the next morning and
    2) that the ceremony would not exceed 2 hours

    (both of which made me laugh as someone who travels frequently and has attended numerous graduations), would you care to explain to us how you propose he leave Marshall at noon and get to MSP in time for a 2:30pm flight?

    Does he just make the 150-mile drive at incredibly unsafe speeds? Travel by map? Apparate? Something involving a Delorean and a flux capacitor, perhaps?

    By the way, it's not like this is unusual in any way. Joe Maddon missed games to attend his then-girlfriend's law school graduation. Ozzie Gullien missed games for his son's graduation. Plenty of others have done the same.

    You'll need to come up with something a lot better than this to sway people to the anti-Grady point of view. This just makes you look like you have Gardy Derangement Syndrome.

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    What happens if the Twins players suddenly play very relaxed and win a couple games in Seattle? What if there is a noticeable difference in the way they play? At that point, I think it would be fair to start pointing fingers at Gardenhire. But that probably isn't going to happen.
    It will be interesting to see hoe the team responds to Ullger. I don't think he has much more than Gardy to motivate this team.

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    College graduations are a BIG deal. Gardy needs to be there for this huge milestone in his daughter's life. It doesn't matter if they are in first or last place, he needs to be a dad this weekend.

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    No, thrylos has a very valid point. The man gets three months of vacation, and other days off throughout the year to celebrate with family. Three days off here is inexcusable, particularly when a skipper is needed to right a sinking ship. But we have more than enough evidence by now that Gardy is not the man for the job. It puzzles me why more people here don't see this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark's Lounge View Post
    Whether It be Gardy, Ullger, Ted Danson or the ghost of Milton Berle managing, it would not make a single difference.
    I totally agree. Heck, I'd go further and say that having Ulger manage in Gardy's place is like...you know...doing something meaningless...and futile...like cleaning the galley or moving furniture on a big boat...that had some catastophe...like hitting a submerged rock...and it's going to sink anyways...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LastOnePicked View Post
    No, thrylos has a very valid point. The man gets three months of vacation, and other days off throughout the year to celebrate with family. Three days off here is inexcusable, particularly when a skipper is needed to right a sinking ship. But we have more than enough evidence by now that Gardy is not the man for the job. It puzzles me why more people here don't see this.
    Please read my comment here...

    The reason I wrote this here and posted this blog, was to make people think. And react. And, yes graduation is a huge deal and I am glad that Gardy is going to his daughter's and that will probably save him some pepsids or five.

    The point is that, a whole bunch of us agree that this team will not miss Gardenhire. But this confession could not come easy. Someone had to play the role of the Pujol (sic) and pin the role of Gardy as a leader of the Twins vs. that of him as a dad (and that was me being the Pujol.)

    So, my point is, and even the most stern Gardy apologists (when his dadhood was artificially apparently questioned) agreed that he brings no value to the team and he better be with his family than the Twins, when the Twins reached rock bottom...

    Just some food for thought folks...
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    Just read the blog post, and I couldn't commend you more for demanding accountability from the team's "leadership." If we want to return to respectability in the AL, more fans are going to have to make these demands. Gardy cannot lead by example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LastOnePicked View Post
    Just read the blog post, and I couldn't commend you more for demanding accountability from the team's "leadership." If we want to return to respectability in the AL, more fans are going to have to make these demands. Gardy cannot lead by example.
    Oh my gosh....I want to rip my hair out reading this stuff. Are you just trying to get a reaction like thrylos supposedly is or do really mean what you just typed? Accountability means facing the music for the results on the field. It does not mean you should have to make a 2-second cameo at your daughter's graduation so other people don't say you're "abandoning ship."
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    Listen I almost blame this season entirely on the players, but someone has to take the fall. Gardy did some wonderful things for the Twins, but he will be fired. Look at Francona, he won two world series and was let go. Ozzie Guillen was basically fired, and he won a world series. I know people will say how the Twins are such a loyal organization, but they fired Bill Smith. However if you replace Gardy with someone on the current staff that does nothing. It has to be someone who is a different. Obviously it would be great to get Francona and if you think about it Minnesota is a OK location for him. Great Ballpark, less media pressure,and superstar in Joe Mauer. No other team in baseball would keep there manager if he had back to back 90+ loses in a season. It is fair, maybe not but it is what should and will happen

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    I'm done refuting posts like this. There are reasonable arguments in support of changing managers, and I'm willing to engage in discussion of those.

    But the anti-Gardy stuff being thrown out here is to baseball debate what "Obama is a Kenyan-born Muslim" is to political debate. It is backed by blind hatred as opposed to facts or logic, and thus unworthy of being taken seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDog View Post
    Did you break the '0' key on your keyboard and couldn't add the proper amount of them?


    I guess I sounded a bit harsh, but talk about beating a dead horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrylos98 View Post
    Please read my comment here...

    The reason I wrote this here and posted this blog, was to make people think. And react. And, yes graduation is a huge deal and I am glad that Gardy is going to his daughter's and that will probably save him some pepsids or five.

    The point is that, a whole bunch of us agree that this team will not miss Gardenhire. But this confession could not come easy. Someone had to play the role of the Pujol (sic) and pin the role of Gardy as a leader of the Twins vs. that of him as a dad (and that was me being the Pujol.)

    So, my point is, and even the most stern Gardy apologists (when his dadhood was artificially apparently questioned) agreed that he brings no value to the team and he better be with his family than the Twins, when the Twins reached rock bottom...

    Just some food for thought folks...
    What a load of self-serving, self aggrandizing B.S. Yeah you're a real Joan Garcia, someone gag me...please!

    First of all, I am one of the alleged Gardy "apologists" and did not at any point claim he had no value to the Twins. You said in your original post "Where are his priorities"? Which assumes the question "with his daughter or with his team"? It also infers that his priorities should be with the Twins and if they aren't it proves he is not the right guy for the job.

    From a person who is responsible for a considerable amount of employee hiring, he is exactly the kind of guy any self respecting organization desires to have working for them. It's reassuring that the people he works for have the same values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinsnorth49 View Post
    What a load of self-serving, self aggrandizing B.S. Yeah you're a real Joan Garcia, someone gag me...please!

    First of all, I am one of the alleged Gardy "apologists" and did not at any point claim he had no value to the Twins. You said in your original post "Where are his priorities"? Which assumes the question "with his daughter or with his team"? It also infers that his priorities should be with the Twins and if they aren't it proves he is not the right guy for the job.

    From a person who is responsible for a considerable amount of employee hiring, he is exactly the kind of guy any self respecting organization desires to have working for them. It's reassuring that the people he works for have the same values.
    100% agreed. If I was an owner and my manager wanted to blow off his daughter's graduation in order to prove his dedication to the team, I would wonder what kind of person I had hired. I find it interesting to watch someone back pedal after making a bold assertion that essentially blows up in their face.
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    Gardy sacrifices his family time for about 6 months of every year. His daughter has earned a solid weekend of him saying he's proud.

    As for the Seattle series... It's not like he ran out the door and threw the keys to the plumber or Ice Cream Vendor. He's got a coaching staff who have watched a game or two.

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    Twins win! Twins win! Gardy stay away, I'm tired of seeing the Twins a last place team. Go Scotty Ulger!!!!

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    Guys are missing an important point. With Obozo in office a college degree is damn near useless. If he is willing to wave a wand and forgive all student loans then that degree was free and worth what was paid for it nothing at all. Plus unless she plans on working for a union they aren't any jobs with the socialist in chief running the show. Twins = USA both are a complete **** show!!!!!!!

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