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    Burroughs Designated for Assignment

    To make room for Butera

    Which means that Morneau (likely, you know the Twins' doctors) is ok and will not go to the DL. This (other than the Butera call up) is good news on both counts.
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    What will be the Twins record be in May? 17- 11 would be great, even 500 would be ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Gun View Post
    What will be the Twins record be in May? 17- 11 would be great, even 500 would be ok.
    Is it sad to say I will be happy with double digit wins? Let's hope for 19.

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    An MRI on Justin Morneau's left wrist revealed only inflammation and fluid buildup.

    Good news, as Morneau will fly back to Anaheim Wednesday to rejoin the Twins. He's not expected to rejoin the lineup until Friday, but it sounds like a stint on the disabled list won't be needed. Morneau is batting .230/.313/.459 with four homers so far this season.


    Source: Rhett Bollinger on Twitter

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    I know this is supposed to be good news since it means Morneau's injury isn't serious, but Twins will have 2 player bench for three days at least while still carrying 13 pitchers. Really?

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    I guess I'd rather have a defensive catcher that can't hit than a defensive 3B that can't hit. But I'm not real comfortable with Plouffe as the backup infielder. Twins are going to need another infielder soon.

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    One thing that has to be noted is that DFAing Burroughs opens a spot on the 40-man roster (hopefully for an infielder), so an infielder might be coming next; just hope his name is not Nishioka (still on the DL in Rochester btw)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    I know this is supposed to be good news since it means Morneau's injury isn't serious, but Twins will have 2 player bench for three days at least while still carrying 13 pitchers. Really?
    I don't really get it either. If Mauer can't play they are left with just a 1 person bench? Have to assume Mauer can play, but if that's the case I don't understand why you need Butera. I think it shows the Twins have zero confidence in Franky tonight and figure the bullpen is going to be well used. That's the only explanation I can come up with at this point for keeping 13 pitchers, when you are down 1, possibly 2 hitters to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whydidnt View Post
    I don't really get it either. If Mauer can't play they are left with just a 1 person bench? Have to assume Mauer can play, but if that's the case I don't understand why you need Butera. I think it shows the Twins have zero confidence in Franky tonight and figure the bullpen is going to be well used. That's the only explanation I can come up with at this point for keeping 13 pitchers, when you are down 1, possibly 2 hitters to begin with.
    Mauer the DH tonight. Plouffe and Buterror on the bench; Thomas RF, Casilla moved to the #2 spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
    I guess I'd rather have a defensive catcher that can't hit than a defensive 3B that can't hit. But I'm not real comfortable with Plouffe as the backup infielder. Twins are going to need another infielder soon.
    If that's the choice and Mauer's hurt and won't be playing catcher, bring up Butera, fine. However, that's choice. If Morneau is out beyond Friday, they will yet have another situation where they should have put him on the DL. Even if you think they end up being right and he's ready to go Friday (I've very little confidence in that at this point), they are still carrying 13 pitchers.

    It should also be noted that your comparison (Butera vs. Burroughs) not two players who can't hit. It's one player who can't hit and another who we could choose to DH for instead of the pitcher and not lose much. And, to be fair to Burroughs, a lot of his ABs (6) have been pinch hitting, so he's really had no opportunity for for any consistency and only logged 18 PA. Again, though, the choice didn't have to be, nor should have been, imo, between Burroughs and Butera.

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    Remember when everyone was pretty pleased with the Twins bench? Way back in early April? Remember that? That was awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    Remember when everyone was pretty pleased with the Twins bench? Way back in early April? Remember that? That was awesome.
    That's Spring Training numbers for ya....

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    Remember when everyone was pretty pleased with the Twins bench? Way back in early April? Remember that? That was awesome.
    Sure was, we basically traded Revere, Hughes and Burroughs for Thomas and Butera. Not a net positive any way you slice it.

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    Here's the deal though....within 10 days they can choose to put Burroughs back on the 40-man. Given how Franky has pitched so far, can you really blame them for wanting to keep their bullpen full tonight?

    If my understanding of the rules is correct, in the next ten days Morneau could end up retroactively on the DL, they could dump a pitcher, they could send Butera back down, or make any other move that frees up a spot on the 25-man and then put Burroughs back on without any consequence (assuming he isn't put on waivers right away).

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    OK, we're talking about two games. I suppose Morneau can be a defensive replacement as soon as tomorrow. If Mauer is ready to catch by Friday, Sweet Drew could be sent down then, perhaps replaced by Dozier. Carroll was moved out of the #2 hole, is demotion to utility status next? If Dozier is not promoted they could promote a utility type (Hollimon, Florimon or even Nishioka) and if they get by Fragile Frankie's start without burning the whole bullpen, they probably can demote a pitcher, although there really isn't one that has been consistently bad in the bullpen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stringer bell View Post
    If Dozier is not promoted they could promote a utility type (Hollimon, Florimon or even Nishioka) .
    Hollimon and Nishioka are on the DL
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    Here's the deal though....within 10 days they can choose to put Burroughs back on the 40-man. Given how Franky has pitched so far, can you really blame them for wanting to keep their bullpen full tonight?

    If my understanding of the rules is correct, in the next ten days Morneau could end up retroactively on the DL, they could dump a pitcher, they could send Butera back down, or make any other move that frees up a spot on the 25-man and then put Burroughs back on without any consequence (assuming he isn't put on waivers right away).
    Are you sure about this? It doesn't make sense. If teams could put the player back on the 40 man without consequence wouldn't the Twins just DFA Mourneau and add him back on Friday when they determine his long term status? It would seem to be a huge loophole. Teams could carry just a couple starters and have the other 3 DFAd and just brought back for their turns, right? I think once you DFA a guy, you have to either waive, trade or release him. If he clears waivers you could re-sign him, but I don't think you can just decide to add him back to the roster without doing one of the other 3 things first.

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    Well dammit, it appears that I have been suckered by incorrect wikipedia information. It DOES say on wikipedia that they can return him to the roster, but it doesn't appear that any other source mentions that option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whydidnt View Post
    Are you sure about this? It doesn't make sense. If teams could put the player back on the 40 man without consequence wouldn't the Twins just DFA Mourneau and add him back on Friday when they determine his long term status? It would seem to be a huge loophole. Teams could carry just a couple starters and have the other 3 DFAd and just brought back for their turns, right? I think once you DFA a guy, you have to either waive, trade or release him. If he clears waivers you could re-sign him, but I don't think you can just decide to add him back to the roster without doing one of the other 3 things first.
    To be DFA'd you'd have to clear waivers first. The reason he needs to clear waivers is that he is out of minor league options. So, if he clears waivers he can then be assigned wherever. I'm not sure about the 40 man roster spot. I think if he's got a ML contract I don't think he can be removed 40 man can he?

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    Sean is a recovering drug addict, singles hitting third basemen who is currently not hitting singles. I don't believe anyone will be knocking at the door during the waiver period. Just a hunch.

    Rochester will be his next stop. Unless he decides to go back to his Las Vegas Nicolas Cage impersonation from a few years ago.

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