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    Time to sign Stephen Drew

    The Twins through the first two series have shown that perhaps they do have the bats to somewhat compete this year:

    The one glaring, obvious, ugly weak spot with zero help on the horizon: SS, Florimon just is not going to flat out cut it. The Twins still have money, and Drew at some point is going to HAVE to take a deal, I'd still like him on 2-3 years, but at this point, give him a one year deal, lose the 2nd round pick this year, and then you will probably get a 1st or 2nd round pick the following year (or you can sign him longer)
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    Too early to make a knee jerk reaction...but boy am I coming around fast. Maybe hold out until after the draft?

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    Sign him. Drop Bart. Send down Escobar and call up Mastro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinscowboysbulls View Post
    Sign him. Drop Bart. Send down Escobar and call up Mastro?
    Wouldn't that leave Flori to be our primary backup INF? I think Escobar is better suited for that role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinscowboysbulls View Post
    Sign him. Drop Bart. Send down Escobar and call up Mastro?
    Sign him, send Florimon down. Keep bartlett around since you need the back up CF...for now. I think you live with Bartlett as the backup CF/super Util until Buxton comes up in June/July. (Then Hicks is the every day LF and back up CF) I have never been a huge Escobar guy...but meh, keep him around in that case as well I guess..

    Ideally you get Bonaficio to be the new super UTIL guy though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe A. Preusser View Post
    Wouldn't that leave Flori to be our primary backup INF? I think Escobar is better suited for that role.
    Yeah, I think Florimon would be best suited to be in AAA, able to fill in at SS if Drew gets hurt.
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    Looking at Drew is not a "knee jerk" reaction. The Twins do not have a legit shortstop on the team and knew that going into the season. The issue is the same as before - the Twins aren't contenders and don't want to give up a draft pick. Ordinarily I would agree with them, but it's such a huge hole.

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    I was never too high on Drew, but Getting him for 3 years would be such an upgrade. I also feel like it is a little soon to react so against Florimon. Yes, he can't hit and likely never will. But 6 games this year is not a good sample size for anyone. Yet if we heard they had a real shot at him with a 3 year deal I would personally buy a ticket to New York for Pedro.

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    If he is still available after the draft i think the twins should sign him....if floriman and all other available options are not panning out....which i think will be the case. I also think he should be signed for 2015 as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by pierre75275 View Post
    If he is still available after the draft i think the twins should sign him....if floriman and all other available options are not panning out....which i think will be the case. I also think he should be signed for 2015 as well
    I don't think we'd be able to get him after the draft.
    Once the draft passes he'll have a lot of teams interested in him (for the same reason you want to wait).

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    Signing Drew at this point might make sense only if one thinks that the Twins are close to be contending and Drew will push them over the top. Drew will not sign a long term contract, just a single year.

    Otherwise, it is a lose-lose situation (Spend $ and don't make the post-season and lose a draft pick.)

    I'd rather see what Escobar and Danny Santana (in that order) can do at this point...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
    Signing Drew at this point might make sense only if one thinks that the Twins are close to be contending and Drew will push them over the top. Drew will not sign a long term contract, just a single year.

    Otherwise, it is a lose-lose situation (Spend $ and don't make the post-season and lose a draft pick.)

    I'd rather see what Escobar and Danny Santana (in that order) can do at this point...
    How do you know Drew would only sign a singe year contract? IIRC he was looking for a long term deal all off-season.... you shouldn't speak in unfounded absolutes as it unfairly misdirects the thread to fit your personal narrative. It was known and reported that Drew was only looking for a one year deal, then your point would have weight, but as it stands IMO it just sidetracks the discussion at hand.

    Additionally if indeed it is only a year contract, as I mentioned above, then the Twins have a pretty decent chance of getting a 1st or 2nd round pick back in the 2015 draft (or keeping Drew for additional years)

    The Twins would always have the option of trading him later in the year as well if it was a one year deal and somehow Santana stepped up. Or if they fell out of the race.

    If Kubel, Colabello, Hicks all step up this year the offense suddenly becomes not too shabby, the rotation also has the potential to be decent as well, though not a huge contender, the possibility exists that they could stay in the race longer than many people thought, that is enough of a reason IMO to go out and spend some cash to booster the team, losing a 2nd round pick (when you could probably get one back if he did leave in a year) isn't something to keep you from doing that IMO.
    Last edited by SpiritofVodkaDave; 04-06-2014 at 05:33 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
    Additionally if indeed it is only a year contract, as I mentioned above, then the Twins have a pretty decent chance of getting a 1st or 2nd round pick back in the 2015 draft (or keeping Drew for additional years)
    A player signed after the start of the season won't be eligible for compensation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
    A player signed after the start of the season won't be eligible for compensation.
    Ah, got it, didn't realize that. Well I'd still like to bring him in for a 2-3 year deal anyways. Hell, even at the right price for one year would be fine by me, losing a 2nd round pick isn't going to kill this franchise IMO, and as mentioned if he plays like he can, you could still net a solid return in the trade market should the Twins ship sink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
    Well I'd still like to bring him in for a 2-3 year deal anyways.
    That would be my preference if you're going to go ahead and sign him now. Get a couple of years out of him for the pick you're giving up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
    The Twins through the first two series have shown that perhaps they do have the bats to somewhat compete this year
    They've also perhaps shown their pitching is going to be godawful again. Mayhap we should sign Drew for his own merits and not judge anything by a 6 game sample size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Brooks View Post
    I don't think we'd be able to get him after the draft.
    Once the draft passes he'll have a lot of teams interested in him (for the same reason you want to wait).
    Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
    A player signed after the start of the season won't be eligible for compensation.

    Exactly. The big teams are playing chess on Drew in just this way. If you are a team like the Twins, your chess move was signing him in March-especially when Florimon went down with the appendectomy, by June you'll be checkmated by at least a half dozen other teams for Drew's services.
    Last edited by jokin; 04-06-2014 at 06:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeviathan View Post
    They've also perhaps shown their pitching is going to be godawful again. Mayhap we should sign Drew for his own merits and not judge anything by a 6 game sample size.
    Well, I for one have been saying all year that we should sign Drew based on his own merits and based on the 6+ year sample size that Florimon has shown us in the minors and majors for hitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
    Well, I for one have been saying all year that we should sign Drew based on his own merits and based on the 6+ year sample size that Florimon has shown us in the minors and majors for hitting.
    This is Florimon's 9th year as a professional. And all we've had confirmed thus far is, the only thing worse than Florimon at the plate the last 8 years, is post-appendectomy-Florimon at the plate in his 9th year.

    Unfortunately, the time has probably passed for signing Drew, as Boras is probably lining up the June bids for his services as we speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
    Signing Drew at this point might make sense only if one thinks that the Twins are close to be contending and Drew will push them over the top. Drew will not sign a long term contract, just a single year.

    Otherwise, it is a lose-lose situation (Spend $ and don't make the post-season and lose a draft pick.)

    I'd rather see what Escobar and Danny Santana (in that order) can do at this point...
    First, I agree with VodkaDave's points above. In addition, because we have no shortage of cash and nothing to spend it on at the moment, grabbing Drew on a 1 year contract and getting another "name" and a few more wins would put more butts in seats.

    It might be worth the 2nd round pick loss this year. Not sold entirely, but I don't think it's out of the question.

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