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    The graphic on the screen says the twins have scored third most runs in mlb, huh? Go figure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverbrian View Post
    I agree completely.

    The main concern is that Bartlett is the CF backup plan. Shoehorned into the OF to fit what the roster needed.
    Agreed, I think he has shown that playing CF might not be in his tool kit.

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    Show of hands, who thought Suzuki would be batting .423 after two series? No no, keep them up while I count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe A. Preusser View Post
    I'm sorry. That was intended as a good natured ribbing and was in no way meant as a personal attack.
    No sweat

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    Hey, when do we start worrying about a suddenly useless bullpen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sconnie View Post
    Antony or Gardy? I don't really blame Gardy, he doesn't have many choices...
    Good question. It's hard for me to imagine that Molitor would take his current job without there being an excellent chance that he would manage sooner rather than later, so Gardenhire may be on the way out regardless of any wacky roster hijinx.

    Trying to remember anything that Antony has said that inspired confidence that he'd be a worthy successor to Ryan. Can't at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stringer bell View Post
    Hey, when do we start worrying about a suddenly useless bullpen?
    After a blown save...check.
    After the pen has a higher ERA than the starters...check.
    After a member of the pen has an ERA over 20....check.

    I'd say right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physics Guy View Post
    I'm going to be a contrarian, but I don't think Bartlett was that brutal. He made bad judgments, is clearly inexperienced, but at least he is going after balls. He just dove as many times as Hammer will all year. Hammer would not have gotten to either ball. With a little more experience, Bartlett catches the first one and the run doesn't score. With Willingham in LF, both those balls land for singles at least but Kipnis probably doesn't score. Don't get me wrong, I would still rather have him learning OF in AAA. Ok I said it, now bash away.
    I don't think anyone was claiming he was "brutal" in a stone hands or letting a ball through his legs sense, obviously. He's been close but awkward on three key plays out in LF already today. (Would be fascinating to see his reaction time and route efficiency in the new "fieldFX" system.) Hope he gets better, but that's pretty unacceptable from your only backup OF. And he shouldn't be learning the position at the MLB level either. Let him play everyday in the Rochester OF for a few weeks first, if you really want him to be a super utility guy.

    And if Willingham wouldn't have been any better... well, maybe the Twins ought to have figured that into their planning for LF/RF/DH while they were simultaneously building a flyball staff. As it is, they have multiple questionable defensive outfielders, and NO legitimate options for defensive replacement.
    Last edited by spycake; 04-06-2014 at 02:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GCTF View Post
    1000 wins. Tell that cyberstadork I'm gonna keep managin' like it's 1950 no matter what he thinks.
    Or, on the other hand, one could point out that:
    a) Gardy is one of 2 Twins managers with 1000 wins
    b) Gardy is the only Twins manager with 1,000 wins, AND a winning percentage.

    Bill James?
    Feel free to pile on about Suzuki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physics Guy View Post
    Agreed, I think he has shown that playing CF might not be in his tool kit.
    So far the only tool in there is getting hit by that pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physics Guy View Post
    Agreed, I think he has shown that playing CF might not be in his tool kit.
    Maybe later but certainly not now.

    Somebody in the org was pro-Bartlett.

    And pro-Bartlett over Presley and Parmelee and Mastroianni.
    A Skeleton walks into a bar and says... "Give me a beer... And a mop".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverbrian View Post
    Its gotta be Gardy?
    He put Bartlett in LF, but it was Bartlett or Escobar, pick your poison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverbrian View Post
    I agree completely.

    The main concern is that Bartlett is the CF backup plan. Shoehorned into the OF to fit what the roster needed.
    For the record, he can't hit either.

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    A number of candidates for the first ">" thread of the season.

    > Florimon's hitting
    > Bartlett's outfielding
    > bullpen
    > free agent starters signed.
    Chris Hermann solves everything. hat tip to jokin

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    Quote Originally Posted by stringer bell View Post
    Hey, when do we start worrying about a suddenly useless bullpen?
    Good point. Thankfully there are options at AAA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sconnie View Post
    He put Bartlett in LF, but it was Bartlett or Escobar, pick your poison.
    Easy choice. Ipecac Escobar over Baneberry Bartlett, unless Escobar is so bad that he literally starts crying on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sconnie View Post
    He put Bartlett in LF, but it was Bartlett or Escobar, pick your poison.
    I know... But the question was... Who in the organization decided that Bartlett could fill an OF position.

    I think it was Gardy or TC Bear.
    A Skeleton walks into a bar and says... "Give me a beer... And a mop".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverbrian View Post
    I know... But the question was... Who in the organization decided that Bartlett could fill an OF position.

    I think it was Gardy or TC Bear.

    Bill Smith did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverbrian View Post
    I know... But the question was... Who in the organization decided that Bartlett could fill an OF position.

    I think it was Gardy or TC Bear.
    You leave him out of it, his decision making is BEYOND REPROACH. Gardy isn't bad either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverbrian View Post
    Maybe later but certainly not now.

    Somebody in the org was pro-Bartlett.

    And pro-Bartlett over Presley and Parmelee and Mastroianni.
    tough to say if Mastro is back up to full speed, but Presley or Parmelee would be nice to have right now.

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