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Thread: Congratulations Ron Gardenhire, 1000 Wins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
    Congrats for the milestone.

    But wins mentioned by themselves only can be misleading. Charlie Hough has only 3 less wins (216) than Pedro Martinez (219.) Hough also lost 216 games, while Martinez lost 100. If you avoid the last sentence someone who does not know those pitchers would think that they are about equal.

    Gardy has career 950 losses as well. He will likely reach the 1000 loss milestone this season too. So more like Hough than Pedro...
    Wow, Hough played in 432 MLB games where he factored into the decision......curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinsnorth49 View Post
    Wow, Hough played in 432 MLB games where he factored into the decision......curious.
    Hough pitched 858 games Before he was a starter with the Rangers he was the Dodgers closer and closers then pitched 2-3 innings. And as a starter in the 80s he was among the league leaders in IP and CGs (the knuckleball helps) and the Rangers were a club that can turn a game either way really fast
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    I thought the Twins did a great job with the honorary shirt they designed for Gardy...1000 wins, 67 ejections! I've always enjoyed Gardy's fiery nature and willingness to defend his guys...one of his better assets.

    It got me thinking, though...I assume Gardy got credit for a win in those 67 games he didn't finish. Kind of questionable because the Twins were behind in some of those games at the time of ejection, and they came back to win under the direction of somebody else!

    I wonder how many wins Cy Young would have had if he had been credited with a win for every winning game which he started, even if the team was behind at the time of his removal! Phil Hughes has to be fuming right now...under the "manager's wins" rules, he's 1-0 for the season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
    Hough pitched 858 games Before he was a starter with the Rangers he was the Dodgers closer and closers then pitched 2-3 innings. And as a starter in the 80s he was among the league leaders in IP and CGs (the knuckleball helps) and the Rangers were a club that can turn a game either way really fast
    I know, I watched him for years, he wasn't the pitcher of record in the rest of those games. But as long as your furthering the point, wow 858 games, that's a pretty darn good career!

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    Congrats to Mr. Gardenhire. It is a rare accomplishment indeed. He clearly does some things well, and I'm going to say "yay" for those things on this thread.
    Lighten up Francis....

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    1001!

    Hopefully he will be getting win 1100 mid April next year
    "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"- L. Harvey Oswald


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
    Not really. TK won 2 world series when he had good talent. Gardy went 1 and out in his post-seasons with good talented teams, including one that had both the MVP and Cy Young award winners.
    Except the time they didn't go one and done and made the ALCS against the Angels of course.
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