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    Chris Crawford's newest draft blog for ESPN Insider has an excerpt about Jacob Gatewood potentially falling out of the first. I haven't been majorly plugged in on him, but regardless of what we do at #5, wouldn't it be wise to grab him in the 2nd if he's there?

    Stock down: Jacob Gatewood, SS, Clovis (Calif.) HS
    Gatewood's stock has seemingly been dropping since the "draft season" started, and a player considered a potential top-five pick now likely doesn't go in the first round. The power is legit, but that power means nothing if Gatewood can't hit, and fewer and fewer teams believe he's going to be able to at the professional levels.
    Possible fits:Houston Astros, Texas Rangers, Cincinnati Reds
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    Sure, if Gatewood is there at #46, grab him. But I don't think he'll fall that far. (Unless two many teams think he's Brandon Wood ...)

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    I found this nugget from Derek Wetmore interesting, "Ryan said he'd like to draft a lot of left-handed pitching". Perhaps there is something to the recent Sean Newcomb steam. At the very least, I'm guessing they rank Newcomb over Nola.

    http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Report_No_question_Terry_Ryan_will_return_to_GM_po st_this_season060214

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    Quote Originally Posted by Einstein View Post
    I found this nugget from Derek Wetmore interesting, "Ryan said he'd like to draft a lot of left-handed pitching". Perhaps there is something to the recent Sean Newcomb steam. At the very least, I'm guessing they rank Newcomb over Nola.

    http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Report_No_question_Terry_Ryan_will_return_to_GM_po st_this_season060214
    :-) Just FYI - you can find the story Derek was referencing right here on Twins Daily. It was reported by SD Buhr:
    http://twinsdaily.com/content.php/30...ry-Ryan-Part-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bonnes View Post
    So Twins have both Jackson and Gordon available and choose Gordon, per Callis. I would be a little surprised by this. It seems like they were high on Jackson before Gordon.
    I agree. I'd be very disappointed if both were there and we went with Gordon in that case. I don't think the Twins would go that route either. I believe they would take Jackson. Who has the arm profile for 3B as well as RF in addition to many believing he can stay at catcher as well as having a 25-35 HR potential and a better hit tool than Gordon. Gordon doesn't seem to be be that much better than the average SS, but Jackson could be significantly better than the average C, 3B, or RF. Seems like a no-brainer to me.

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    ESPN Article On draft success over the past 50 years.

    This came up months earlier when discussing Jackson and high school catchers, but we've been discussing position trends and high school vs college players for a while now. A few high lights:
    College 1st baseman are the safest picks in the 1st round.
    There is a higher fail rate among high school outfielders than high school catchers.
    High School 2nd baseman have the worst collective WAR over any other position or level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmb0252 View Post
    If this happens, I will be disappointed if we don't take Jackson.

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    I can't say I'd be disappointed in Gordon over Jackson, but I get it, for those of you who would be.

    That said, I also would be just fine with Jackson over Gordon. Different types of players, but both with very different, yet high ceilings. I don't know why, I just lean more towards Gordon. Could be that an "all-star" type SS seems harder to come by than a C who could become an OF.
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    I find it funny that people that have never seen Gordon play think he might be at best an average SS, while the scouts have him in the top 3-5 of the entire draft, and use words like "potential perenial all star SS".
    Lighten up Francis....

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    You know what this thread is missing? Pictures. Here's a pic of each of the common players we've heard in Twins rumors just for the funz:

    Nick Gordon


    Alex Jackson


    Aaron Nola


    Sean Newcomb (looks like Pitbull)
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bonnes View Post
    So Twins have both Jackson and Gordon available and choose Gordon, per Callis. I would be a little surprised by this. It seems like they were high on Jackson before Gordon.
    I don't see Theo taking Conforto, not even a consensus top 8 pick at #4. He has been adding BPA since he took over and has assembled a very good farm system. I think they take a pitcher, but either way I think they end up with Aiken, Rodon, Kolek, or Jackson.

    I agree with you John, I hope we would take Jackson over Gordon.

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    Man, I love Jackson's hair......
    Lighten up Francis....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
    Man, I love Jackson's hair......
    Haha. He kind of looks like a mix between Josh Freeman (NFL) and Miguel Cabrera.
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    Kind of random, but draft-related so I'll post:

    Peter Gammons @pgammo
    GM:"Draft is so confused, if Aiken, Jackson, Kolek, Gordon go 1-2-3-5 and Cubs take a bat, where does Rodon go? Seattle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
    I find it funny that people that have never seen Gordon play think he might be at best an average SS, while the scouts have him in the top 3-5 of the entire draft, and use words like "potential perenial all star SS".
    I'm just curious, who said he was a perenial all star?

    Jackson, Gordon, Newcomb, Toussain and Holmes are all pretty much tied for me right now, but that's only on the condition that Jackson is put in the OF day one. HS catchers have nearly a 100% bust rate over the last dozen years, I want no business of trying to develop one at the possible or even likely expense of his offense.

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    Does Newcomb remind anyone else of Jon Lester? I haven't seen any scouts compare the two but surely someone else has mentioned it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicksaviking View Post
    I'm just curious, who said he was a perenial all star?

    Jackson, Gordon, Newcomb, Toussain and Holmes are all pretty much tied for me right now, but that's only on the condition that Jackson is put in the OF day one. HS catchers have nearly a 100% bust rate over the last dozen years, I want no business of trying to develop one at the possible or even likely expense of his offense.
    you left out the word "potential", and one of the scouts interviewed/quoted on ESPN has said that. I read it elsewhere too, but I have no idea if those were circular references or not.
    Lighten up Francis....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
    you left out the word "potential", and one of the scouts interviewed/quoted on ESPN has said that. I read it elsewhere too, but I have no idea if those were circular references or not.
    I wasn't denying the claim, I just didn't recall anyone projecting him as such. I haven't read every write up on these guys.

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