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    Big Shock (Sarcasm): Tanaka to Yankees


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    Wow, a 7-year contract at what amounts to $25 million/year!

    That is quite a bit more risky that I am comfortable with, and am glad the Twins didn't take that gamble.

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    The good news is the free agent market should come to life again. Garza, Santana and company will finally find homes - and there will be actual baseball news stories to read again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRex View Post
    Wow, a 7-year contract at what amounts to $25 million/year!

    That is quite a bit more risky that I am comfortable with, and am glad the Twins didn't take that gamble.
    This is the same deal Felix Hernandez received when you add in the $20M post fee, I think only Verlander and Kershaw make more. For a guy that has never pitched here and who scouts say does not compare to Darvish

    Felix Hernandez has a career 3.20 in 9 seasons. 3 seasons with an ERA under 2.67. 8.4 K per 9.

    The other thing that hasn't been talked about, Yu Darvish's success here certainly made this guy more attractive, but Yu has only been here two years. Nomo and Dice-K had two very good years as well.

    Nomo first two years 2.90 ERA, he ended at 4.24
    Dice-K first two years 3.73 ERA, he ended at 4.52
    Yu's first two years, 3.34 ERA, he ended at ?????

    We should be applauding this. I think this guys opt out may be laughable in four years.
    Last edited by tobi0040; 01-22-2014 at 09:13 AM.

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    whoda thunk it ?

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    It's just money. Some teams spend it to win. Others, not so much. Anyone still think Ellsbury's contract will keep them from adding players?
    Lighten up Francis....

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    Twins were in on him until it went over 2 years @ 8 mill. Terry just couldn't get him to take his money!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tobi0040 View Post
    This is the same deal Felix Hernandez received when you add in the $20M post fee, I think only Verlander and Kershaw make more. For a guy that has never pitched here and who scouts say does not compare to Darvish

    Felix Hernandez has a career 3.20 in 9 seasons. 3 seasons with an ERA under 2.67. 8.4 K per 9.

    The other thing that hasn't been talked about, Yu Darvish's success here certainly made this guy more attractive, but Yu has only been here two years. Nomo and Dice-K had two very good years as well.

    Nomo first two years 2.90 ERA, he ended at 4.24
    Dice-K first two years 3.73 ERA, he ended at 4.52
    Yu's first two years, 3.34 ERA, he ended at ?????

    We should be applauding this. I think this guys opt out may be laughable in four years.

    If you have a billion a year in tv revenue, what does the money matter? They just showed the $189MM number has no meaning. So, they bought a number 2-4 pitcher. I don't get how that is bad/wrong/evil for them. I bet they go sign another pitcher now too. They have money, they had an open position, they spent money to fill the position. Seems like a good idea to me.
    Lighten up Francis....

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    As noted, it's their money, and this is how the Yanquis roll, so whatever.
    Finally unblocking the FA logjam seems more interesting by far.

    We face them in May, June & July, so let's hope for an "interesting" & extended transition.
    Not to be negative, but I'm sick of being their whipping boys.

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    This thread illustrates the difference between "NY way of thinking" and "Minnesota way of thinking". Wildcatters do have dry holes--but the winners make up for them.

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    Yankees have spent half a BILLION dollars this winter & still have Kelly Johnson likely starting at 3B & Brian Roberts at 2B, plus the farm system is a mess and nearly everyone is an injury waiting to happen in their lineup. This signing is just another bad move for a franchise that clearly has no idea what it is doing year in and year out.

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    It seems like a lot of money, but if he doesn't live up to the contract the Yankees know ways of getting out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Twins were in on him until it went over 2 years @ 8 mill. Terry just couldn't get him to take his money!
    I know. It's so frustrating, this parsimony we have here in this organization. A mere $160 million and we could have had him...

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    A few of the Yanks signings won't pan out. Beltran slumped in the 2nd half the past 2 years. Tanaka will be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwak View Post
    This thread illustrates the difference between "NY way of thinking" and "Minnesota way of thinking". Wildcatters do have dry holes--but the winners make up for them.
    I think it's more about budgets and revenue flows....There's just simply no way the Twins can compete with the Uber-markets like New York and LA. Those teams get more in their TV deals than the Twins bring in total per year. It's just simply not a level playing field.

    I'd love to see a hard salary cap in baseball, but know it has no chance of happening anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
    Yankees have spent half a BILLION dollars this winter & still have Kelly Johnson likely starting at 3B & Brian Roberts at 2B, plus the farm system is a mess and nearly everyone is an injury waiting to happen in their lineup. This signing is just another bad move for a franchise that clearly has no idea what it is doing year in and year out.
    Yes in the playoffs 17 out of the last 20 years with 5 world series titles they clearly have no idea of what they are doing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jm3319 View Post
    I'd love to see a hard salary cap in baseball, but know it has no chance of happening anytime soon.
    Nope. And despite all the earlier chatter in the media about the Yankees staying under the luxury tax threshold, that was apparently blown apart, too:


    • Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN
      Yankees were already slightly over the $189m luxury tax threshold before Tanaka signing... so, that # is in the rear-view mirror.

      7:56 AM - 22 Jan 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB_Iowa View Post
    Nope. And despite all the earlier chatter in the media about the Yankees staying under the luxury tax threshold, that was apparently blown apart, too:


    • Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN
      Yankees were already slightly over the $189m luxury tax threshold before Tanaka signing... so, that # is in the rear-view mirror.

      7:56 AM - 22 Jan 2014
    Slightly over means they still could have found a way to get under the threshold. That is the crazy thing about the Tanaka signing, its not costing them $25 mil a year, its costing closer to $35 million a year with the luxury tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Yes in the playoffs 17 out of the last 20 years with 5 world series titles they clearly have no idea of what they are doing!
    Let's talk recent history, they are clearly falling behind. What lead to the 5 world series titles was an infusion of in house talent that came through the minors and became the key pieces to those teams: Rivera, Pettite, Jeter, Cano, Posada etc. Now the cupboard is bare and other teams are starting to reap the benefits of TV deals (LA Dodgers, LA Angels, Seattle Mariners etc) so now they can't simply "sign everybody"

    Also they have won only 1 title in the last 13 years...yes that is better than the Twins, but let's not pretend the Yankees have somehow been DOMINATING baseball the past decade or so.

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    Great move for the Twins! I've watched him and not a big fan of him. Glad he will be pitching for he Yankees at a super high price.
    Do or do not. There is no try.

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