Who thinks pursuing Indians SS Mike Aviles is a good idea because to me Aviles is definitely a huge upgrade over Florimon. He also plays 2nd, 3rd, and some outfield a utility player or super utility a little bit like Ben Zobrist. But what would it take to get him to come to Minnesota?
He traded Dernard Span after 3.6 WAR season, the second highest in his career. In both those cases he got the other team's top pitching prospect in return.
Before that he traded Scott Tyler and Travis Bowyer at their "peak" time. Maybe you don't remember them because they never made the big leagues but TR traded them for 2.1 WAR of Luis Castillo in 2006 and whatever they got of his 2.7 WAR in 4 months with the Twins in 2007.
Before that he traded AJ Pierzynski to the Giants while he was still under team control and after consecutive years of batting above .300. San Francisco got 1.1 WAR total from AJ. TR would get more than that in the 4.0 WAR he got from Boof Bonser. But he also got 15.2 WAR from Nathan, and 14.9 from Liriano. Effectively out WARing Brian Sabean by 33.3 WAR.
Don't give up on Hicks. Certainly not for a man without a position. I would love to see Hicks rebuild his value so that he would have high value when Buxton is ready.
Ok let me re-state it , who was the last guy Terry traded at the high end and recieved quality and fair value in return?, Not Ben , he got a twice hurt damaged starter and a failed AA starter ,Who went on to struggle a 2nd year in AA, Not Span while he got a lights out starter , he was only in single A, and should have recieved an addition prospect , maybe not an A prospect but at least an -B prospect. I guess a case could be made for trading Drew Butera at his high mark , and he did get fair value for him,actually probally Terry got more then fair value
Hicks is closer to the guy we saw in Spring Training, when he played like he had nothing to lose, than the guy we saw in April, when he played like he had everything to lose.
Gibson is a lot better than he was in the majors last year. His main problem he had was getting strikes called because umps weren't used to his movement. I've never seen the likes of it. He'd consistently hit the outside corner at the knees according to Pitch FX and the ump would call a ball. That has to improve.
I haven't given up on Eades, but I didn't see anything special about him in postseason and pro ball. He was sitting in the high 80s with a long delivery. I think his arm was tired, as is typical for Friday night college pitchers. So let's see how he does after resting his arm before we pass judgement.
Arcia played center and left through most of his minor league career. It takes time to adjust to the way balls spin in right field. Even Kirby struggled with this in his first year over there. He's played about a half season there in the majors. Giving up on his defense at this point is silly.
RF 239 games
CF 77 games
LF 33 games
Nick Franklin would be an asset to any team. I am not sure he is a good fit at SS. If he has a future as a 2B and corner OF, the Twins may have a similar player in Rosario. Would you trade Rosario for him? Probably wouldn't be enough. Franklin is further along on the growth curve and might be able to play SS. Rosario and Burton?
But we have Dozier, Rosario and Polanco at second. I would trade one of them for a true shortstop. Swapping one player for another of equal value at the same position makes little sense.
Also, at this point you could argue the Twins have done more to give up on Gibson for next year than anything anyone has said on the board. Part of why I don't like Pelfrey is that his signing almost certainly squeezes Gibson out of a regular spot. He's a guy we need to find out about in 2014 not bounce him around.
If Gibson dominates in AAA, they can trade or release Correia. Also, injuries happen. Gibson has options and stuff to work on. At times last year, he would just lose control of the fastball for an inning. That's not uncommon in the first full year back from TJ. If he predictably shows he can be more consistent, they'll make room for him.
It's the guys without options and upside that get squeezed by the Pelfrey signing. To some, that's Diamond and Worley. I think both will regress to the mean this year. Because they were so bad last year, that means improvement this year. But neither is likely to make the team out of spring training. So that regression will likely happen elsewhere. Oh well. That was inevitable with Gibson, Meyer and May knocking on the door anyway.
I would feel way better if Correia was gone but right now, just due to options, Gibson gets squeezed. I like Gibson, so I don't like that. I want to see 25+ big league starts this year.
It's funny, have a pretty bad year after your promotion to AA and the Phillies analysts, along with the national guys, immediately moved May from the #1 prospect going into the 2012 season, to "enigmatic", has-been, and ultimately, "cast-off" when finally dispatched to the Twins. Many of those same analysts once hot on him as being a can't-miss part of the opening day 2015 Starting Rotation, now pegged him as a future likely reliever. So obviously, while the jury is still out on May, clearly the shine and glow was already faded from May's armature once Amaro made him available to Terry Ryan.
1. Starting CF (Span) traded to Nats
2. Backup CF (Revere) traded to Phils
3. Great Spring Training, starting job on the Twins
4. Strikeouts, dejection, struggle
5. Demotion to minors.
6. New CF (Pressley) acquired midseason
7. No Sept callup, Pressley treading water
8. Buxton ranked No. 1 top prospect in baseball
9. "Hey Aaron we still really like you. Want to play some Winter Ball and maybe hit the ground running next spring?
"Nah I'm good."