Also, anything that keeps Arroyo from retiring and pursuing his "music" career is good.
I predict a very Pavanoesque contract coming for Arroyo. There are too many teams looking for a consistent, low-risk guy like Arroyo. I will predict he ends up in San Francisco.
The two seasons on either side of that bad 2011 season are creepily similar.
An innings-eater is not a bad idea for this club, and I agree- IF he's the #2 along with a #1 SP signing. Twins might be able to push JJ's hometown buttons and get a favorable deal- why not take a shot?
I don't see Hudson coming to MN, but Hughes & Kazmir seem like reasonable targets/doable deals. E. Santana is dreaming $$$; we'll see if MLB drinks his Kool-Aid or not. If the bottom falls out for him, sign him.
What I do not understand is the Twins addiction to a nit-picking/nibbling the zone, pitch-to-contact philosophy when we have a pitcher's park. Does TR know where to drive come game time?
We have a different park now, play on grass, and the team's pitching coaching, philosophy & FA acquisitions must reflect this new reality. We have a surplus of OFs with speed & leather in place in or on the way- hello, Byron- and yet we are stuck in a small-ball/Dome-based approach, fooling nobody. Why?
For the first time I can remember, Twins have more cash than they know what to do with, and an owner willing to spend. FA signings can't do it all, but get a credible SR and go from there- talented fielders & bats are on the way, and they deserve to be supported with good SP. MN is flyover country for most MLB SP FAs, so we need to pony up to get into the conversation.
Why do Twins SPs take off once they leave MN? Apparently we can develop SPs and OFs. Why are the Twins MLB's gift that keeps on giving? This has to end eventually, and if TR doesn't come through this winter, show him the door. Almost time for a housecleaning.
Teams can only spend from their draft pool as determined by record on international FA.
If ever there was a time for the Twins to go after the high risk high reward pitcher this is it. As long as they can keep the contract to four years or fewer go after the strike out pitchers. Even if the guy gets hurt the first day on the job you have tons of pitch to contact pitchers in AAA. For once things line up to go after a real pitcher there really are no good excuses here. Swing for the fences Terry don't get caught in double play.
Problem is, there's no way to make a solid, evidence-based case otherwise based on the track record (outside of quotes, which so often get manipulated to fit a narrative). I'm afraid even should there be examples soon, it'll be mocked as 'that one time' or some other fault.
However... On the other side... Quotes are often carefully crafted by those being quoted and often end up being a false or incomplete impression of what is real behind the doors.
I rarely trust quotes. I've been quoted... I've had to carefully choose the words I used to protect relationships and strategy and at the same time I've seen the context stripped away from my quotes and end up printed with a perception 10 miles from the truth without the surrounding context.
In the end... The quotee... Can't be comprehensive... The quoter can't be comprehensive and nuance is hopelessly gone before it can even start. On top of that... The reader has varied levels of understanding and prejudice or even interest.
Yeah... I rarely put trust in quotes. As a way of getting information.
Tim Hudson to the Giants, 2/23, taking out a rumored Arroyo suitor. (The Giants were also rumored, albeit weakly, to be inquiring after Nolasco.)
What does that mean for Arroyo's expected contract? Hudson is coming off injury, although not to his arm, but when healthy, he is a bit better/safer than Arroyo, I think.
Also the Hudson signing doesn't mean the Giants wont still sign Arroyo too.
Also I haven't heard any new rumors out there. Does anyone know when we plan to get around to making offers? or Are we going to wait till the dust settles and go with what's left?
Does that bother anyone else; us going after guys hard but a week later and still no rumored offers? I had hopes that they were ready to wow some guys and get them to sign early, but with each passing day I become a little more sceptical.
By all accounts the FO is going out and trying for some of the top names in the FA pool. That is way different than last year, and really its all we can ask for, to be in the mix. Hopefully they can land a few.
I know it's early. I know there is plenty of time.
But that is what you do when you are pussy-footing around, trying to get a deal.
The Twins need to stand up and actually PAY for a potential top of the rotation pitcher. There are a few out there that might actually have excellent years. The kind of arms that are not a band-aid for 2014, but maybe useful for the Twins' future.
They are so proud of players who leave money on the table to sign here. Well, congratulations. That is part of what has gotten us 3 seasons in a row in which our team lost over 95 games.
Arroyo would be fine, but only if there was a significant signing along with him.
TR is concentrating on the wrong end of the list right now.
I have lost all confidence that he has any intention in signing a pitcher that will be above league average.
So much so that I have stopped coming to TD many days. Love the Twins, hate what occurs as a lie of an effort to improve the club.
And you don't even have a like button any more.
My world crumbles...