It has Hicks as a 55 for speed???
But most of Baseball rates power-hitting very highly--much higher than the Twins organization. I concur with your assessment of Buxton--just not enough "body-of-work" to truly evaluate. I think "rankings" should be weight-adjusted for the level at which the performance was evaluated.
A few things I noticed from the list - there were only six 80 (the highest ranking) given out, and two are Twins prospects.
Gerrit Cole's (Pirates P) Fastball
Miguel Sano's Power
Byron Buxton's Speed
Billy Hamilton's (Reds of/ss) Speed
Bruce Rendon's (Tigers P) Fastball
Roman Quinn's (Phillies SS) Speed
Pretty cool that the only 80 for Power was Sano's.
Anybody else surprised that Sano got a 75 for his arm? I saw him last year when Beloit visited Cedar Rapids, he definetly has a cannon, but a 75? Higher than Buxton or Hicks?
Also, Sano was the only player with two separate ratings greater than 70.
Can't wait to go down to CR this summer. Great park, cheap tickets, cheap beer, players are accessible, I can't encourage people to make the trip enough!
Scratching my head, trying to figure out why my favorite,Eddie Rosario, got no love. ( ಥ_ಥ)
Nice showing by the Twins. I too believe Arcia should be higher. Next year the Twins should add 3 to the list IMO, while possibly graduating 3. Kepler, Berrios, Rosario, and their first pick of the draft all have a shot at getting in next season. Hicks, Arcia and Gibson might all have lost rookie status for 2014 too.
- aj (new york): who is a good comparison to oswaldo arcia and where do you see him starting the year?
John Manuel: We've always gotten Bob Abreu comps on his stance and swing. He lacks that patience and speed, but probably has more raw power. Few minor leaguers fit the RF profile as well as Arcia; love that guy's bat.
Also, from "Our Picks For Potential 2014 Top 100 Prospects":
John Manuel: To borrow a phrase from our College Top 25 rankings, Twins center fielder/second baseman Eddie Rosario may have suffered from some poll mechanics. I put 55/High grades on both Rosario and J.O. Berrios but ranked Berrios higher due to his greater importance to the Twins as a potential starting pitcher, and due in part to uncertainty over Rosario's future position. He may not stick at second base and might be a tweener as an outfielder—not the defense for center, not enough power for a corner. But I believe in the bat ultimately and think Rosario could wind up as a Shin-Soo Choo, Nick Markakis or David Murphy type, a corner outfielder who hits for high average, hits a lot of doubles, draws walks and is an above-average offensive player despite average home run power.
Let's put Arcia into some perspective. Here's a list of the non-up-the-middle defenders and non-pitching prospects (quick and dirty and lazy).
3 Oscar Taveras
4 Wil Myers
9 Miguel Sano
15 Christian Yelich
21 Nick Castellanos
22 Mike Olt
27 Jonathan Singleton
30 Anthony Rendon
34 Jorge Soler
41 Oswaldo Arcia
When comparing him to similarly tooled players, we see he's ranked tenth. Maybe we can make some quibbles here and there, but really Arcia's ranking isn't exactly the underestimate some people believe.
Good point. I am very comfortable with where they have Arcia. I'm really high on him, but I don't know that he should be any higher than he is.
Arcia's bat is not without flaws either. He ks more than you would like and has some struggles with lefties (unsurprisingly). His bat is ahead of Buxton right now but Buxton has a legit shot to close that gap. Plus, while Arcia is a decent athlete and legit rf profile, his speed, arm, and overall defense are not in the same league as Buxton. This is a significant factor in prospect rankings as well.