With the playing field leveling in baseball I think the Yankee's plan of just buying the cream of the crop players isn't working as well as it used to. In regards to the draft they can't just sign a talent who slipped to round 20 and give him a multi-million dollar deal to get him to sign as there is a cap in place now. With teams controlling their players for 6 years you can't buy young talent from other teams via free agency as they are usually 30 years old before they hit now. With the new cap on payroll you can't just buy your team and not pay for it once you are over the cap.
So what is a team that can usually take advantage of other teams supposed to do. Well I guess you go and spend places where the rules are more bendable. With a farm club that is not that great and an aging team and the international market structured the way it is you hit it hard for this year and hope you can infuse some talent until they take that away as well. Playing by the spirit of the rules is for suckers or losers, right?
I was under the impression they were more than 500K under, so thanks for the update on that. I continue to hope they spend the full amount. As for "they aren't worth it"......we are talking about less money than almost any other way they can spend money. It is a dice roll. Spending this money doe not stop them from spending it otherwise. There is no reason not to spend the money, from a baseball perspective at all. The worst thing that happens is that they get nothing for their relatively small investment.
The rules are: if you spend over the amount in one year, you get less the next year. Those are the rules. Teams doing that ARE following the rules. They are choosing a different strategy than teams that want more money every year. Neither has the "ethical highground".
This is a completely bogus analogy, nick. And if you didn't intend for it to be analogous, perhaps we could start a new thread on that topic, seeing as how it's such a fresh one. Geez. :)
Just a moderator note, let's try to keep the tone civil. This is an interesting thread, let's keep it that way.
Do we need to live in a world are shenanigans against other billionaire owners is more of an injustice than shenanigans agaist the taxpaying peons?
If it's bogus, you should probably clarify why instead of just throwing that word out there, otherwise it seems like it just doesn't fit your narrative.
I honestly think that most teams want an international draft. The easiest way for that to happen is for these rules to get broken enough that the sytem fails. They tweak the rules to fix a broken system and then at the next CBA, they will be rightfully upset when teams like the Cubs, Yankees, and RedSox do what they did last year and will do this year.
Oh, and we'll see Cubans, Japanese, and Koreans subject to it too.
I don't like it for the players, but I do think that long term it's best for baseball.
Teams certainly want a draft, they want to artificially hold down salaries every way possible. I'd like to see a hybrid, something like this:
The 10 worst teams get first crack at signing up to 3 players eligible for the "entry draft". If they sign three, they can only sign 2 the next year if they are in the bottom 10. This is totally a FA period, and it lasts for a month. Then, the non-playoff teams that that were not in the bottome 10 get to draft. Then, they have a draft like they do now. That way, the best players get their money, but only the worst teams get their crack at them. Money is given to the best players, but those players generally go to the worst teams. Because you can sign three, you get to make up ground faster. Maybe you change that to 2 guys....
The violator in either case will rationalize his behavior to create a distorted truth. But the truth isn't altered. If the speed limit is 55MPH, I'm breaking the law. But when I go 60, it feels like I'm right and the law is wrong. Some things are worth getting pissy about, and personally I get pissy about what the Yankees are possibly about to do.
So, here's my analogy of why it's a bit hypocritical for us to blast the Twins on this and pretend we're being cheated. If I was one of those who bought a cheap chunk of pasture out north of Rogers and built my new house on it, the rest of you helped me make this dream work. You bought me roads, and a sewer, and the LRT. So, thanks. But if you think, for one minute, that you have the right to tell me what to do with my house, you're mistaken. It's not yours.
Public subsidies are part of our deal. If you work for Best Buy, or Allina, or any other company that has built facilities, the taxpayers have a few nickels invested in your cubicle. So we expect you to work real hard to make your company profitable so we get paid back in tax revenues generated from your loyal efforts. That's how the system works.
I also believe that there needs to be an international draft to replace all of this stuff. It makes no sense that a 23 year old Cuban can become a free agent and sign a huge contract, but the same can't happen for a kid from the States. Treat them all the same regardless of where they come from.
Just to be clear, I definitely think it's ethically questionable, just wanted to play devil's advocate and give a possible explanation for some teams' thinking. You could use the logic in my previous post to justify to yourself just about any rule- or law-breaking activity. It doesn't necessarily make the activity any more or less ethical though.
As many others here have said, I think the easiest and best solution to this is to just have an international draft.
Are they breaking the rules as currently written, No, but they are ruthlessly pillaging talent from the teams that this was designed to help, thus the system as it stands isn't really working in my opinion.
The problem I see is that most players whose agents are worth anything will tell them to wait until all the teams can be in to maximize their value.
Like it or not, this was an attempt to do this without an international draft. However, as long as the big maket teams have a way of dumping their excess reserves back into the system, they will do it. I don't blame them, b/c I'd do it to, but from a best interests of baseball standpoint, there has to be a way of maintaning competitive balance, and I see this as nothing more than a way to eventually get the international draft.
Not sure I understand diehard.....there are 30 spots for 10 teams as FAs....after that, it is a draft. Unlikely they'll get nearly as much money in a draft.....certainly not all of them. The other strategy for a team could be to sign 3 2nd rounders for good money, then draft the top guys left....or a team could go all out and pay 3 guys huge money.....or a team could save their money and just pay the guy they draft.
Thirty players, regardless of level (or 20 if you use my limit thing....) would be signed with virtual certainty. Also, this way, the PLAYERS get to choose what they do. They can sign, or they can go into the draft. Right now, they have no real choice other than to sit out 1-2 years.