I wish they would sign Johan Santana just to have JO Berrios hang with him for 3 months or so. Physically, they are almost identical, if Berrios were to learn and master Santana's change-up technique, I think it would further justify his lofty ranking from BA.
Alex Meyer above Kohl Stewart is interesting to me. Maybe because Meyer is much closer to being major ready? Stewart is only 19 years old I think.
Pinto not ranking inside the top 10 , has got to be my biggest suprise.
but i'd really like to know BA's top 20. My guess:
5. Berrios (!)
7. Thorpe (!)
8. May (?♪♪♥ ♀§Φ☺§♀☻!)
9. Santana (suprise)
? - Kepler
? - Harrison
? - Pinto
? - Eades
? - A.B. Walker
some combo of Sulbaran, Gilmartin, Melotakis , Turner and either Jorge or Goodrum.
(as many of you know my list is quite a bit different)
But BA's list >>>> than mlb.com Jonathan Mayo's list with no Thorpe or Pinto or Walker inside the TOP 20 !?!?!?!? [crazy eyes]
Pinto surprises me. I think Berrios is a bit too high too... Guess they really really like him.
and yes, Santana has no business being on this list.... Perhaps I'm missing something about him, but I don't get the love. He's looking like he'll be a slightly better version of Florimon. That's not a bad prospect, but hardly a top 10 one in a deep system.
If Meyer doesn't graduate to the Majors for whatever reason, it wouldn't surprise me if those slots are flipped going into next offseason but right now, Stewart's talent doesn't outweigh his lack of experience.
I do like the MLB.com list better and not willing to jump on the Thorpe (or Sulbaran or Jorge) bandwagons quite yet. Maybe after this season. Walker needs to get on base more. A college kid with a .310 and .319 OBP in the last 2 seasons is not a top 10 prospect. Add 115 K in 508 ABs to that low OBP and you might be getting the picture. If he increases his walk rate and gets his OBP closer to .350, then he might be on the radar. At this point he is not much better prospect than someone like DJ Hicks (who is better with the bat, but not with his glove)
In regards to Santana. I've thrown him under the bus in other threads (the Stephen Drew one specifically). This peaked my interest. He's been fairly young for each level and he wouldn't be the first guy we've seen take some major strides in his later seasons. He hasn't been a flop but he may well be a useful guy. If he is a true defensive whiz, maybe he's a top of the league defensive guy with an ok hit tool. His OBP has been about .330 the past two years compared to a career .318. Maybe as he matures he gets a little better eye and improves his stealing rate as well. I still don't see him as a top ten guy but I guess there must be a decent argument for it. Career minor league OPS is about 40 points higher than Florimon and he played the levels at a younger age for what that's worth.
I think we've all said if Florimon could just hit a little better he could suddenly become a valuable player. Maybe Santana is that guy. I'm a bit pessimistic on him but who knows.
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There has been a lot of guessing what #'s 11-20 will look like, but I found this new feature (top 15 players under 25), which listed the following players after Jorge Polanco, suggestive:
13. Max Kepler, of/1b (21) Low Class A
14. Fernando Romero, rhp (19) Rookie
15. Stephen Gonsalves, lhp (19) Rookie
Fernando Romero is certainly a name we have heard before, but I don't think many have the fireballing Dominican right-hander as high as #12!
For a quick primer, this is what Thrylos had to say about him:
34. Fernando Romero, RHSP, DOB: 12/24/1994. 6'0", 215 lbs
Fernando Romero was signed to an Amateur Free Agent contract by the Twins on October of 2011 with a $260,000 bonus out of the Dominican Republic. After spending the 2012 season in the Dominican Summer League, he made the jump to the Gulf Coast League in 2013. He pitched in 12 games (6 GS) for 45 innings to a 1.60 ERA and had 47 strikeouts and only 13 bases on balls. His WHIP was 1.00 and K% a very impressive 26, while his K/BB was 3.62.
Romero is a big guy and an extreme ground ball pitcher. That compared to his striking out pretty much every fourth batter he faced, is very promising. His heavy fastball is in the low 90s but he is still very young and can pick velocity. He has a slider and changeup that are works in progress. A former Twins' comparable would be Carlos Silva at his best. Romero does have mid rotation potential, depending on development of his secondary pitches and staying healthy. He will likely begin 2014, his age 19 season, in Elizabethton where he will alternate between the rotation and pen until extended.
I don't expect much from Santana but I expect nothing from Florimon. He's a bad MLB starter. Florimon should be AAAA injury filler in the minors, not a MLB shortstop. Santana probably won't end up being more than a futility bat but still, that's better than Pedro Florimon. His bat simply doesn't carry in today's game. I don't care how well he fields (and he's still too sloppy to be considered an all-glove, no bat starter).
As for Florimon improving, I created a handy meme image to explain my thoughts on the subject.
Wasn't Santana voted "Best Prospect" in the Eastern League last year by the managers? I get the relatively unimpressive performance from a sabermetrics POV but he must have something that catches the eye of experienced baseball people.
Caleb Joseph (Baysox) was the 2013 Eastern League Player of the Year
Allan Dykstra (B-Mets) was the 2013 Eastern League MVP
Alex Dickerson (Curve) was the 2013 Eastern League Rookie of the Year
Santana (and Pinto) made the Eastern League All Star team, maybe that's what you are thinking of...
One of the things BA has always been high on is age and ceiling. Pinto is a little older and Mlb regular ceiling is not as flashly as potential Allstar. Santana has always been young for his league and the power potential, avg, and range says his ceiling might be higher, though Pinto is a lot more likely to reach his.