Thread: Delmon

Originally Posted by Top Gun

The Twins could of had Longoria instead of Young and Harris for Garza & Bartlett, but Punto was Gardy's pet and could play ss & 3b. See how well that worked out.

I don't buy that. Longoria was already a known prospect who hadn't had any trouble roughing up minor league umpires. No way the Rays were dangling Longoria for anyone.

Willingham replaced Cuddyer. Willingham did not replace Cuddyer and Delmon. If you want to compare Willingham's stats with Delmon's, fine, but then you need to come up with a different replacement for Cuddyer's numbers.

Friday was a disaster in the field for Delmon. He looked better on Saturday and Sunday.

Delmon looked positively svelte when they showed a side-by-side of him and Prince Fielder (Prince on 3rd, DY on 2nd). But what was up with the 2 HBP and the walk the other day? Positively un-Delmonlike.

Oh, and the Tigers had some definite RISP problems during the Chicago series. Stranded an awful-lot of guys.

Mastroianni had a quote during Spring, contrasting the Twins camp to Toronto's, saying that if he made a play like that for Toronto he would get reamed (his word) for it, while Gardy told him quietly in the dugout "let's keep the 360's to a minimum, OK?" Wonder if Gardy was that circumspect with Delmon, though.

Probably the most telling thing is that Young is getting replaced for defense in the late innings. You don't see those moves that often any more (although the Rangers do it) with the limited benches that ML teams have now.

Picking on Delmon for his defense is not fair, it is like picking on Drew Butera for his offense, Matt LeCroy for his speed or me for my spelling. Defense is something Delmon has to do, not something he wants to do when you have a team of Rivals for the DH position. I don't understand the cult of Delmon, maybe it will click for him and he will take off like it did for Big Papi. (But they test more now then they did when David started to stay healthy and go the other way off the Green Monster. I don't know of a injection for your glove.) What Delmon needs is the old Matt Lawton supersized glove, you know the one that looks like the big camping chair in Menards. It won't help route running and instincts he has yet to pick up after 15 plus years of playing organized baseball, but he could be able to swipe at the ball and maybe knock it down so it will not roll to the fence quite as often, thus saving his legs for his next at bat.

I think that:
a. getting rid of Delmon was a bad move.
b. getting rid of him for close to nothing was a worse move and
c. sending him to a division rival was inane.

Originally Posted by thrylos98

I think that:
a. getting rid of Delmon was a bad move.
b. getting rid of him for close to nothing was a worse move and
c. sending him to a division rival was inane.

So you would have paid him $6.375M this offseason? That essentially means swapping Delmon for Willingham.

Originally Posted by John Bonnes

So you would have paid him $6.375M this offseason? That essentially means swapping Delmon for Willingham.

Not exactly... Willingham was Cuddyer's replacement. Delmon has not been replaced

I'd keep him as a starting RF or DH (where he belongs) and if the money was an issue I would have not signed Marquis and would have found a better alternative than Capps for half the money. That would make the $ about equal.

Yeah, let's make fun of Delmon some more! It's obvious that the Tigers made a bad move in acquiring him and his...

...wait, .380 on-base percentage?

Oh, but his poor fielding has to be costing Detroit ballgames and...

...they're 6-3 and leading the division?

Oh.

Hey, let's put up Jim Thome's blooper reel while we're at it. Oh, that's right, Thome was never asked to field a position.

Originally Posted by WJ

Hey, let's put up Jim Thome's blooper reel while we're at it. Oh, that's right, Thome was never asked to field a position.

That's actually a great point. Delmon's a terrible outfielder, but he was also a RF'er/borderline DH when we got him from Tampa Bay. Gardy's love for Cuddyer forced him into LF, and Kubel wasn't exactly a great OF'er in his own right. There are plenty Twins players who would've been exposed if they had been forced to move to LF...Delmon was "awarded" that task, ironically, because he was thought to be a better athlete than some of the alternatives.

Originally Posted by dwintheiser

Yeah, let's make fun of Delmon some more! It's obvious that the Tigers made a bad move in acquiring him and his...

...wait, .380 on-base percentage?

Oh, but his poor fielding has to be costing Detroit ballgames and...

...they're 6-3 and leading the division?

Oh.

34 plate appearances this year. Even when he was "on fire" for Detroit last year, he only managed a .756 OPS.

Also, he's been hit three times this year so far. That dramatically aids his OBP in 34 plate appearances.

Originally Posted by StormJH1

That's actually a great point. Delmon's a terrible outfielder, but he was also a RF'er/borderline DH when we got him from Tampa Bay. Gardy's love for Cuddyer forced him into LF, and Kubel wasn't exactly a great OF'er in his own right. There are plenty Twins players who would've been exposed if they had been forced to move to LF...Delmon was "awarded" that task, ironically, because he was thought to be a better athlete than some of the alternatives.

What about 15 years in age difference between the two? Also, what about the fact that Delmon absolutely did NOT want to be a DH?

Originally Posted by thrylos98

I think that:
a. getting rid of Delmon was a bad move.
b. getting rid of him for close to nothing was a worse move and
c. sending him to a division rival was inane.

Did you see the video??? He looked like a human post hole auger, not an MLB outfileder. I'll give him credit for one thing, he at least made it looked like he was trying.

I could watch that video for the rest of my life and laugh everytime!! Love it.

Originally Posted by thrylos98

I think that:
a. getting rid of Delmon was a bad move.
b. getting rid of him for close to nothing was a worse move and
c. sending him to a division rival was inane.

Lester Oliveros might end up being a better value than Delmon Young. Full stop.

Originally Posted by Top Gun

Don't you forget Delmon had a 2 run homer and is batting .300 He is better than any ofer the Twins have and they gave him away for notting!

Took me nearly a week before I gave in to temptation and opened this thread. The main reason I didn't was because I didn't really want to read nonsense and lies. Took until the tenth reply to get some of both.