Thread: The 4-letter network's Hall of 100

Anyone else been following this?
ESPN's Hall of 100 -- Ranking the all-time greatest MLB players - ESPN

I'm still working my way through it. I'm disagreeing less than I thought I might be.

So far the only egregious error is Reggie Jackson at #55. May be the most overrated player in baseball history, criminally silly to have him that high.

Killebrew at 64, Blyleven at like 71, Molitor at 77. But no Puckett??

Too many recent players. Rivera on the list is a joke. Bonds is too high. Aaron is too low (guy was a machine). No Puckett, but Edgar Martinez?

Originally Posted by ashburyjohn

Yeah, he should be around 58 or 60.

Seriously, or is that sarcasm?

Originally Posted by Fire Dan Gladden

Too many recent players. Rivera on the list is a joke. Bonds is too high. Aaron is too low (guy was a machine). No Puckett, but Edgar Martinez?

---Yeah the Puckett omission would be defensible if they had put another great outfielder over him. But Edgar, though he could mash, was just a DH. If you want to be considered one of the top players ever, you should be able to at least competently field a position.

Haven't followed it. ESPN has become really bad the last few years, esp to baseball. Lots of better places around. I think I stopped going there when they revamped their message boards.

Maybe someone else looked, but is Rod Carew in the list of 125??

Carew is 53rd.

Pedro Martinez at 41 is dumb.

Originally Posted by lecroy24fan

Carew is 53rd.

Pedro Martinez at 41 is dumb.

Wow, Pedro was that high?

Wow that is tedious. Here is a list:

ESPN "Hall of 100"

Originally Posted by ashburyjohn

One thing less productive than ranked lists of players is quibbling about the rankings.

---If you re-read my comments, I think you'll see I was going beyond 'quibbling' in my disagreement with putting Jackson at #55. I don't think he belongs in the top 155.

But that aside, you know what's unproductive? Polluting a thread with snide comments belittling the topic.

The TD crew included rule #5 in the proposed comment policy to address this exact behavior because it was happening so much and it drags down the quality of the discourse.

If you don't feel that player rankings are worth discussing, then simply don't participate in the discussion. Move along and find a thread on a topic you feel is worthwhile.

Guys ranked too high:

1) Reggie Jackson (55)
2) Pedro Martinez (41)
3) Chipper Jones (49)
4) Ivan Rodriguez (71)
5) Alex Rodriguez (18) - roid issues aside

Guys who are ranked too low

1) Mike Piazza (78)
2) Rod Carew (53)
3) Carlton Fisk (76)

Originally Posted by one_eyed_jack

---If you re-read my comments, I think you'll see I was going beyond 'quibbling' in my disagreement with putting Jackson at #55. I don't think he belongs in the top 155.

But that aside, you know what's unproductive? Polluting a thread with snide comments belittling the topic.

The TD crew included rule #5 in the proposed comment policy to address this exact behavior because it was happening so much and it drags down the quality of the discourse.

If you don't feel that player rankings are worth discussing, then simply don't participate in the discussion. Move along and find a thread on a topic you feel is worthwhile.

You're right.

The biggest travesty is Jackie Robinson, at #52, between Rod Carew and Ernie Banks. His place, as a historic icon, is in the top 10. My other icon, Roberto Clemente is #33. Someday I hope Clemente's #21 hangs in every ballpark alongside #42. These two men made historic contributions, that exceeded their excellence on the field.

If you didn't read the reactions of @OldHossRadbourn on twitter you are doing it wrong.

In just isolating pitchers it looks weighted to recent performances and longevity. (44) Sandy Koufax and (32) Bob Gibson being so significantly down the list from (7) Clemens is plain wrong. (100) Phi Niekro and (79) Robin Roberts also seem to be concessions to longevity.

Originally Posted by one_eyed_jack

Guys ranked too high:

1) Reggie Jackson (55)
2) Pedro Martinez (41)
3) Chipper Jones (49)
4) Ivan Rodriguez (71)
5) Alex Rodriguez (18) - roid issues aside

Guys who are ranked too low

1) Mike Piazza (78)
2) Rod Carew (53)
3) Carlton Fisk (76)

Totally agree with you. Piazza was one of the new-age catchers who was tops in defense and offense.

Clemens ahead of the guy in my avatar is wrong.

Originally Posted by J-Dog Dungan

Totally agree with you. Piazza was one of the new-age catchers who was tops in defense and offense.

Um, huh?! Piazza played defense?

Originally Posted by Pius Jefferson

Clemens ahead of the guy in my avatar is wrong.

Or ahead of Mad Dog.