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Thread: Mackey: Defensive wiz Escobar is one to watch

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    Do we know that Escobar is better defensively than Florimon at this point?

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    Gardy might have said that he wants some pop off the bench but I expect that there will be 4 futility IF'ers (2 starting) and 3 catchers (2 starting) on the roster. Combine that with 12 pitchers and the only other hitter is the backup OF'er. BOOK IT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
    Minor League Numbers (7 years) - .267/.312/.348 (.660)
    AAA (172 games) - .255/.293/.343 (.636)
    I'm not a fan of adding up minor league numbers for young guys; it's a real apples-and-oranges problem with age and league level.

    But I agree that his minor league progression, up until last year's poor numbers in a short stint at Rochester, would be completely consistent with an eventual ability to hit at the major league level, well enough for a utility job and possibly just enough to hold down a position as a regular. I was lukewarm on his acquisition, but he's better than the usual minor league infield throw-in on a deal.

    But if he barely misses on such a projection, he is just another good glove in a world fairly full of them. He recently turned 24, so the next year or two become make-or-break.

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    Wasn't Escobar converted from pitcher to infielder not that long ago? That'd provide a legit reason to believe his offensive upside may be higher than the numbers suggest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Nelson View Post
    Wasn't Escobar converted from pitcher to infielder not that long ago? That'd provide a legit reason to believe his offensive upside may be higher than the numbers suggest.
    His b-r.com page shows a couple of innings as a 17-year old. Consistent with his pitching in youth leagues, but he's been a full time hitter for 8 seasons now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashburyjohn View Post
    His b-r.com page shows a couple of innings as a 17-year old. Consistent with his pitching in youth leagues, but he's been a full time hitter for 8 seasons now.
    In terms of geology, that's not that long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokomismod View Post
    Do we know that Escobar is better defensively than Florimon at this point?
    Who? Us? Of course not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jorgenswest View Post
    I am not sure if anyone on the current roster will be on the Twin roster in the next decade. If Escobar has the defensive skill of a Punto or Carroll, he will be a major leaguer into the next decade.
    Both of those guys have some skill as hitters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrodaddyG View Post
    In terms of geology, that's not that long ago.
    They radiocarbon dated Escobar and there's still a fair amount of pitching DNA in there.
    snepp likes this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
    They radiocarbon dated Escobar and there's still a fair amount of pitching DNA in there.
    I understand there was a complete lack of hitting DNA though. "None whatsoever. Not as uncommon as you'd think in that organization's history" one scientist stated.

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