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    Dozier vs. Rosario

    Who would you rather see open the 2013 season at 2-bag, Brian Dozier or Ed Rosario?

    Obviously, it would be a lot more fun to see Eddie. But, we won't. Rosario is now 5-8 with a homer in a few games off the bench this spring.

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    I can't imagine he's ready to play in the majors yet. Longterm, I hope he becomes an all star but right now, I think Dozier would pretty clearly out hit and probably field a lot better too.

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    It would be fun to beleive that Eddie could maintain this level in the regular season, but Dozier it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnfanforlife View Post
    Who would you rather see open the 2013 season at 2-bag, Brian Dozier or Ed Rosario?

    Obviously, it would be a lot more fun to see Eddie. But, we won't. Rosario is now 5-8 with a homer in a few games off the bench this spring.
    I believe we officially have our first overreaction to early spring training stats... It took four games. I thought that it would happen a lot quicker.

    Eddie Rosario is a legit hitter, but he's not ready yet... he can move quickly. But Dozier's much more ready at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
    I believe we officially have our first overreaction to early spring training stats... It took four games. I thought that it would happen a lot quicker.

    Eddie Rosario is a legit hitter, but he's not ready yet... he can move quickly. But Dozier's much more ready at this time.
    Logic and experience are completely on your side, yet I am enjoying the fantasy that Rosario will be a fast mover like Mike Trout. And if Rosario hits well again tomorrow, then he will bring additional joy to my otherwise bleak life. So please continue to be gentle when introducing reality into these discussions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
    I believe we officially have our first overreaction to early spring training stats... It took four games. I thought that it would happen a lot quicker.

    Eddie Rosario is a legit hitter, but he's not ready yet... he can move quickly. But Dozier's much more ready at this time.
    My question Seth, if Rosario has a good WBC and great first half at Fort Meyers he should go up to New Britain at the break. Assuming he continues to hit there like he can/should, does he get a September callup? If my California math is correct, he doesn't have to be added to the 40-man roster until after 2014. But if he has a great year at both stops, is he the young star to get a non-Twins like callup? Your thoughts please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
    I believe we officially have our first overreaction to early spring training stats... It took four games. I thought that it would happen a lot quicker.
    I knew I should've started a "Cut Mike Pelfrey" thread a few hours ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roger View Post
    My question Seth, if Rosario has a good WBC and great first half at Fort Meyers he should go up to New Britain at the break. Assuming he continues to hit there like he can/should, does he get a September callup? If my California math is correct, he doesn't have to be added to the 40-man roster until after 2014. But if he has a great year at both stops, is he the young star to get a non-Twins like callup? Your thoughts please!
    I don't think he will get to play very much in the WBC because Puerto Rico is going to play Beltran, Pagan and Rios in their OF, so he might get an at bat or two. However, I fully expect that he ends the season in New Britain. I think he's a much more advanced all-around hitter than Miguel Sano, so I can see him moving up very quickly. That said, if he doesn't have to be added to the 40 man roster until after 2014, and there are several quality prospects that do have to be added after 2013, I would be shocked if he got a call up in September. It just doesn't make sense. Unless they are 100% certain that he will be their every day 2B at the start of 2014, I don't see any good reason to give him the September call up. That said, I definitely expect him to be up sometime just before September of 2014.

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    Fast thru the system with a September call-up as Carroll will have been traded to a contender. Look for him to get a shot in 2014 if Florimon, Dozier or Escobar are reserve players.
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    8 at bats eh?
    Papers...business papers.

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    Is there a really good Puerto Rican 2B blocking Rosario or is his defense so raw they won't play him there? Or, to put it another way, is there a chance he could hit his way into a start or two a 2B?

    I'm sure it is a huge honor to play for your country, but it would be nice if he spent ST working on D, rather than sitting on a bench.

    Nonetheless, great boxscore for him today, and he fielded the final out.

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    What a great spring experience for this kid!!! He gets to hang around with all these accomplished professionals in Fort Meyers with the Twins. Maybe talk a little baseball and get some instruction from Carew, Molitor, etc. Then he gets to watch Rios, Beltran, and Pagan go about their business for a couple weeks. Wow.

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    I am sure that the kid is having the time of his life and I hope he keeps it up, but I just don't see him making the roster.

    BTW he is not formally invited to ST (every season the Twins give some uninvited minor leaguers some time with the big team and this is what happened here, but it usually happens after the cuts.) The timing of this is interesting, and maybe has to do with the fact that (the invited) Deibinson Romero has not played yet. Maybe something is wrong with him but I haven't heard anything to or against that effect.

    I think that what Rosario is fighting for is Fort Myers vs. New Britain (to begin) this season, but I just don't see him start in AA for a lot of reasons including the temperature up there in April.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glunn View Post
    I am enjoying the fantasy that Rosario will be a fast mover like Mike Trout..
    Hrbek feels like the right analogy to me. Both were in the Midwestern League at age 20. Kent cooled his heels for another year at high A before belatedly getting the call from the big club; the Twins were lucky he didn't get bored and decide to go into pro wrestling. Anyway, let Eddie get a year of seasoning in high A, then call him up.

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    I'm a bit surprised people are even asking this question. He still needs quite a bit of work defensively, so I doubt he ends up in NB. He could get promoted if he continues to hit and plays decent defense, but he won't be starting in NB... No question if he puts things together that he'll be moved rapidly, but unless he forces it, the soonest he will be in MN is for a Sept call up next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnfanforlife View Post
    Who would you rather see open the 2013 season at 2-bag, Brian Dozier or Ed Rosario?
    Luke Hughes.

    Quote Originally Posted by thrylos98
    BTW he is not formally invited to ST (every season the Twins give some uninvited minor leaguers some time with the big team and this is what happened here, but it usually happens after the cuts.) The timing of this is interesting, and maybe has to do with the fact that (the invited) Deibinson Romero has not played yet. Maybe something is wrong with him but I haven't heard anything to or against that effect.
    The Twins brought Rosario to camp so he could get a little work in before the WBC, and so the coaching staff could get a look at him before he leaves for a couple weeks. Don't think it's anything more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Han Joelo View Post
    Is there a really good Puerto Rican 2B blocking Rosario or is his defense so raw they won't play him there? Or, to put it another way, is there a chance he could hit his way into a start or two a 2B?

    I'm sure it is a huge honor to play for your country, but it would be nice if he spent ST working on D, rather than sitting on a bench.

    Nonetheless, great boxscore for him today, and he fielded the final out.
    Yes!! There is an awesome 2-bagger playing in front of Rosario for the WBC. His name is Falu. I played with a Puerto Rican that knows him personally. Falu is a pimp. But so is Eddie, he's just young.

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    I'd also personally give Benson a contract extension while we are at it! Keep in mind Eddie has gotten his hits off a bunch of guys throwing 80% or who will be bagging groceries in a couple months.

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    Eddie is better than Dozier offensively, right now. I think, since the big club is gonna suck this year, that Rosario will get at least 2 years of defensive work in the minor leagues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnfanforlife View Post
    Eddie is better than Dozier offensively, right now. I think, since the big club is gonna suck this year, that Rosario will get at least 2 years of defensive work in the minor leagues.
    He played in Beloit last year, not New Brittian. No question he has a higher offensive ceiling, but that's pushing it.

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