Thread: Dozier vs. Rosario

Originally Posted by kab21

I'm realistic in my expectations so I don't get disappointed.

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I am not afraid to be disappointed about any prospect. I just do not fear being wrong, or over-rating anyone. Its a good feeling.

Originally Posted by drjim

mnfanlife - how long have you been following prospects? You have very interesting evaluations and expectations.

I hint at how long I have been following prospects here: Worm Hunting - Blogs - Minnesota Twins News & Rumors Forum

Originally Posted by Seth Stohs

out friend Aaron Gleeman

I knew it.

Originally Posted by FrodaddyG

I knew it.

You're so creative and wonderfully pleasant to talk baseball with

Originally Posted by mnfanforlife

I hint at how long I have been following prospects here: Worm Hunting - Blogs - Minnesota Twins News & Rumors Forum

If your blog is as informative as the rest of your takes on this site I'll pass.

How about this for a preposterous prediction? Who was thelast Twins two-bagger to win a World Championship and a Rookie of the Year? In2015 we will see, in Edie Rosario, the Second Coming of Chuck Knoblauch!

Originally Posted by Willihammer

I just realized baseball-reference is posting spring training numbers, including a Opposing Pitcher Quality metric

Eddie Rosario Minor League Statistics & History - Baseball-Reference.com

Good link. That means Rosario went 5 for 8 against AA to AAA level pitchers. A good sign. Hope Springs Eternal.

Again, as always, I agree with Seth. A very good year for him would be AA for the last couple months of the season, followed by at least a month or two in AAA in 2014.....but that is the upside if the path I believe. I think a September call up in 2014 is likelyish....with 2015 as the timeframe he is your regular second baseman.

Originally Posted by Don't Feed the Greed Guy

How about this for a preposterous prediction? Who was thelast Twins two-bagger to win a World Championship and a Rookie of the Year? In2015 we will see, in Edie Rosario, the Second Coming of Chuck Knoblauch!

Haha! Knoblauch was my favorite player growing up. And he was All-League for several years with the Twins. Would love to see that success happen for Eddie.

Originally Posted by mike wants wins

Again, as always, I agree with Seth. A very good year for him would be AA for the last couple months of the season, followed by at least a month or two in AAA in 2014.....but that is the upside if the path I believe. I think a September call up in 2014 is likelyish....with 2015 as the timeframe he is your regular second baseman.

Yep, in the original post....I disclaimed that we wont see Eddie this year....But I still think it would be fun!

A lot of you folks are going to be very disappointed when Rosario struggles a bit in Ft. Myers. The FSL is a tough league for a young and inexperienced kid whose plate discipline isn’t great. I’d be surprised if he sees New Britain this year. If not, it certainly wouldn’t mean that he’s off track or failing as a prospect. I’m just shocked at the expectations being put forth. He’s played less than 100 games above rookie ball! I know this is kind of a “just-for-fun” thread but someone needs to inject a bit of reality into these starry-eyed predictions of greatness.

Originally Posted by Nick Nelson

A lot of you folks are going to be very disappointed when Rosario struggles a bit in Ft. Myers. The FSL is a tough league for a young and inexperienced kid whose plate discipline isn’t great. I’d be surprised if he sees New Britain this year. If not, it certainly wouldn’t mean that he’s off track or failing as a prospect. I’m just shocked at the expectations being put forth. He’s played less than 100 games above rookie ball! I know this is kind of a “just-for-fun” thread but someone needs to inject a bit of reality into these starry-eyed predictions of greatness.

Well, maybe. I am well aware what the FSL does to many a hitter's statistics. So a dip in production would not surprise me. Why are you so worried about people being disappointed? Is it your duty to protect Twins fans from being disappointed? If so, that's cool. I guess?


I am sorry if you're shocked at the "expectations being put forth"...but what exact expectations are you referring to?

And yes, this is completely "just for fun"....not just "kind of" for fun. So try to enjoy the differences of opinion rather than trying to get everyone to think just like you. I appreciate your level-headedness, and I thank you for your response in advance.

This has gotta be a bit.

mnfanforlife, I hope you don't take my disagreeing with your opinion as an attack that requires a brusque response. None of my posts were meant to cause you to become angry, upset or annoyed. I actually really appreciate your generating a fun discussion. I'm just having trouble understanding your logic. I get that the Twins have holes at the Major League level, but don't agree that they should fast-track someone based on need with the big club. If that player proves to be ready, then by all means, move him! Otherwise, I guess I'd rather use a more conservative approach to ensure proper development. I think we all hope that Rosario's skills catch up with his talent and I'd love for that to happen sooner rather than later. Time will tell.

Thanks for helping me get fired up for the season!

Originally Posted by Gene Larkin Fan Club

Time will tell.

My thoughts exactly.

I'm beginning to think we need to resurrect the BYTO downs forum.

no need to get defensive, mnfanife. I think most commenters have been rather carefu not to trash you. We like your optimism! But you might want to take note that an overwhelming number of us believe you to be wildly optimistic about Rosario, and people have supported their views quite well, don't you think?

But here's some further reason for optimism: Mackey interviewed Terry Ryan thyis afternoon. Ryan said he though the (main) reason Rosario wasn't a top 100 guy was because he only had about 50 AB's last year, so he didn't have "the numbers". He then talked about Rosario's transition, how he's had some time with Carew this spring, and how the field staff already considers his 2B play to be "serviceable". Ryan certainly left the impression that he's likely to stay at 2B, which would be huge.

Originally Posted by birdwatcher

But here's some further reason for optimism: Mackey interviewed Terry Ryan thyis afternoon. Ryan said he though the (main) reason Rosario wasn't a top 100 guy was because he only had about 50 AB's last year, so he didn't have "the numbers". He then talked about Rosario's transition, how he's had some time with Carew this spring, and how the field staff already considers his 2B play to be "serviceable". Ryan certainly left the impression that he's likely to stay at 2B, which would be huge.

That's not quite what he said... He pointed out that Rosario missed more than a month (about 6 weeks) of last season so his season-ending numbers don't compare to some of the guys ahead of him. Part of it is his move to 2B, but Ryan said that he's made great strides with the glove and they are optimistic.

We all know Rosario wont have a shot at MLB until 2014 at the earliest. In fact, I predicted this about Eddie last November:

4. Eddie Rosario - will play an entire season in Ft. Myers (A+) with his buddy Sano while they both learn how to play defense.. Will hit enough for fans to scream for his call-up in September. But that wont happen. He will start 2014 in AA and 2015 in AAA if the front office has its way. His Miracle numbers I project: .285-.310 avg (tough league for hitters), 10-15 HR's, 70-85 RBI's, 10-20 SB's....solid player.


Again, I was well aware Rosario would not be playing in MN this year. Have been for quite some time. Thank you all for posting.