Twins thought process leading to pitching rotation

After Ryan made his speech during the Season Ticket holder conference, about how he promised to do everything possible to seriously improve the pitching staff and that money was no object, how much of a dropoff in season ticket holders will we see NEXT year after seeing what he actually did?

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Originally Posted by Willihammer

Last fall I read somewhere that Twins season ticket renewals were at 81% already.

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I could have sworn that ended up in Gleeman and John's recent interview with Mr. St. Peter.

They did. I'm almost positive its an old figure though. Probably closer to 90% by now.

edit: actually, I think they were talking about twinsfest attendance in the podcast. I will have to track down the source for that figure if I can. Maybe I am imagining it.

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Originally Posted by Willihammer

They did. I'm almost positive its an old figure though. Probably closer to 90% by now.

edit: actually, I think they were talking about twinsfest attendance in the podcast. I will have to track down the source for that figure if I can. Maybe I am imagining it.

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Don't forget that ST renewals are likely inflated by 2014 All Star Game implications.

Yeah. Talk about what separates the casual fan from the hardcore. Count me out for that.

I think the honeymoon will be all but over after that though. They will finally have to start fielding a competitive product in order to sell tickets.

I can tell you as a former season ticket holder that seat demand for games I had to sell got really, really ugly about halfway 2011. As someone earlier said, you sometimes have to wait more than a season to see the full effect - after people have started to drop their season ticket packages and you are relying on day-of-game sales.

I expect 2013 will be a very cheap time to catch a game at Target Field unless the team does something wholly unexpected. And when you have penny-pinchers for owners, it's a tad disturbing to think about future payroll decisions when you pull significant revenues from their ticket sales.

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Originally Posted by Willihammer

Say the Red Sox are interested again, and just as a pot sweetener, or to help them avoid payroll tax issues maybe, the Twins throw in 23m cash to buyout a year of Mauer's contract in a trade for some of the pitching prospects they took from the Dodgers. Instead of trading a 6/138 player they're trading a more "team friendly" 6/115 player while lifting their own 2013 payroll back to the 100m range.

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I dont believe who pays the salary , it counts against the team he plays for , as far as the lux. or payroll tax is concered