Thread: More on Doumit's Defense

I don't think so Brock. The BP article has a difference of about 139 runs over 5 years, and the pitchf/x guy has the difference at only 38 runs last year. Or, about 78 runs if you scale to 162 games.

Originally Posted by Willihammer

I don't think so Brock. The BP article has a difference of about 139 runs over 5 years, and the pitchf/x guy has the difference at only 38 runs last year. Or, about 78 runs if you scale to 162 games.

This is true. The numbers I assume Brock is drawing from are the 5 year totals. (Not that I put a ton of weight in this particular arbitrarily-drawn-up study anyway.)

Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp

Actually, you can make the argument that he's a negative value player when he's not catching because his bat is so below replacement level that he even detracts from the bench by simply existing.

Yeah, but if you make that argument, then there's a mirror image argument that pins the blame right back on Doumit. At the moment Doumit was signed - no, at the moment the rumors surfaced that the Twins might make him an offer - it was clear, "they're gonna carry three catchers, namely Butera as the defensive specialist". Sign Doumit, detract from your bench, simple as that. At least, Gardy's bench.

Originally Posted by ashburyjohn

Sign Doumit, detract from your bench, simple as that. At least, Gardy's bench.

And that's entirely on the manager's bad habits/philosophies, not common sense.

Originally Posted by FrodaddyG

And that's entirely on the manager's bad habits/philosophies, not common sense.

Yeah, this.

Also, I didn't realize those stats were from a five year period (was reading on my phone). I'll have to take another look at them when I have more time.