Thread: Article: Calling on Capps?

Originally Posted by Huey270

We have the money and you can never have enough pitching so if it's reasonable I'd sign him.

You can never have enough GOOD pitching. You CAN have enough bad pitching. 2012 and 2011 are good examples of that. Capps was a major part of both those bullpens.

Originally Posted by Knotholemike

What are you guys smokin'? $1M - $2.5M for Capps, no way. He'll get a minor league deal with a spring training invite. What he made in the past does not matter. He has not shown the ability to put hitters away in more than a year. He is replacement level at best, and there are lots of guys like him who could be had on a minor league deal.

I agree with most of what you said, but he HAS proven to be fairly effective in the past. I wouldn't be upset if they gave him just over a mil to see if he can round back into form. A million bucks is a lot to you and me, but not so much in MLB terms.

I guess Capps for one million is reasonable, IF he can maintain a certain weight (a la Delmon). But it has to be one year or no deal.

I.d do it. also wonder if Hawkins is available. I would rather have him.

I think the Twins bullpen guraenteed spots at this point is Perkins, Burton, and Deunsing at this point. Swarzak and Burnett and Fien are likely at this point but could be swapped out.

Originally Posted by mnfanforlife

I guess Capps for one million is reasonable, IF he can maintain a certain weight (a la Delmon). But it has to be one year or no deal.

$1M is NOT reasonable. If anyone had offered him a $1M major league contract he would have signed it in a heartbeat. He has not been effective in more than 1 year and there are plenty of younger options with potential upside available for the major league minimum. There are plenty of Capps-like players in AAA that can be had for a minor league deal and an invite.

The bullpen on a team with this roster should be mostly young guys at this point. There is no good reason to have anyone from outside the organization added to the bullpen.

I'm perfectly fine with a 1-year deal for Capps. I can even live with a deal that nets him over $1M. He's not a tremendous pitcher, but he is solid and if healthy you should know what you're gonna get. Frankly, his presence on the roster might get Gardy to use Perkins in more high-leverage situations.

At $4-7M, he's overpaid badly. But he's not a bad bullpen arm and at a good price he could be a nice asset to a team that will need a strong bullpen.

Originally Posted by Knotholemike

$1M is NOT reasonable. If anyone had offered him a $1M major league contract he would have signed it in a heartbeat. He has not been effective in more than 1 year and there are plenty of younger options with potential upside available for the major league minimum. There are plenty of Capps-like players in AAA that can be had for a minor league deal and an invite.

Yep, I'm going back to my original stance. I agree with this totally. He is not worth signing at any price in my opinion. I'm sticking to this stance.

Originally Posted by mike wants wins

The bullpen on a team with this roster should be mostly young guys at this point. There is no good reason to have anyone from outside the organization added to the bullpen.

If Capps is outside the organization, lets keep it that way. Nothing personal. Just business

He is definitely worth 1 year, 1.5 mil or so.

Do I want to think about how the Twins gave up Ramos every time he pitches for us? No I do not.

This blog has a mighty fine point to speculate on given our current state. However, I couldn't help but think this the whole time:

You know your offseason was a failure when.......

I'd take him for a million and hope he has a good year as he could be traded for a decent prospect in July.

You know your offseason was a failure when.....

I'm talking about signing Matt Capps

Originally Posted by Knotholemike

$1M is NOT reasonable. If anyone had offered him a $1M major league contract he would have signed it in a heartbeat. He has not been effective in more than 1 year and there are plenty of younger options with potential upside available for the major league minimum. There are plenty of Capps-like players in AAA that can be had for a minor league deal and an invite.

Respectfully I have to disagree. The league minimum is a whopping $500,000, not exactly chump change. You can either pay an unproven arm that amount, or double it for a guy like Capps. Capps would bring experience, not something to be dismissed. Now, if you were making the point that we should be getting our young arms more major league innings at the expense of a more seasoned veteran presence, then I would probably agree with that. But all else being equal, paying $500,000 for a no name AAA pitcher or $1 mil for Capps is as easy a choice as it gets. Capps gives you cheap experience and potential upside. Granted you have to be sure completely sure Capps is over his injury problems.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not in love with this guy. But you could write down the name of any pitcher who has had Capps' past success and it would likely be the correct call to give him a 1 mil/1 contract. It just isn't that much money in MLB terms and the bargain potential is too great. If he washes out then send him packing, no big loss.

I'd take a healthy Capps at $1 mil over Burnett any day. Burnett has an option available too, send him to AAA, bring him back if/when Capps craps or gets traded.

I thought this site had a anti Capps system?
oh me bad, why resign Capps? if we have a roster spot (we do , no need to give butrea a spot on the 40 man roster) then why not claim tony abreu?
If capps was a lefty by all means sign him , but i think we have plenty of canidants from the right side to fill out the pen.

Originally Posted by Jeremy Nygaard

You had me at "lurking".

Pressly, Wood and Roenicke have to be depressed. Not only is the likes of Swarzack's below-replacement, -0.2 WAR blocking them, now they are being haunted by the prospect of a wounded, flatballing, overweight "lurker" taking their spot (Capps 2-year WAR is -0.4).

Originally Posted by Nick Nelson

You can view the page at Twins Daily - Calling on Capps?

And I foolishly got sucked into this thread thinking the Twins were calling on Carter Capps.

I find it hard to fathom that the Twins FO haven't deleted Matt Capps' number from their speed dial.

I'd be OK with Capps if Gardy weren't the manager. I'm afraid Perkins would have to look over his shoulder after 1-2 bad outings. The Punto of the bullpen.

The Twins have discussed a plan to limit Kyle Gibson to between 130 and 140 innings during the 2013 season as he works his way back from Tommy John surgery.

The 25-year-old right-hander says that he'll do whatever the Twins ask of him, but that his goal is to get to the big leagues as soon as possible. Twins GM Terry Ryan indicated that they may utilize a plan similar to how the Braves used Kris Medlen last season, where he began the year in the bullpen, and then transitioned to the rotation after the all-star break.

Source: 1500ESPN.com