Thread: Arbitration

Could care less about essentially our 3rd catcher....but I'm sure that won't stop the bitch fest that's about to unfold..commence fellas!

Originally Posted by Top Gun

Butera should get paid more than that for all the work he gets in.

Looks like a joke that you forgot to add the punchline to.

I'll start another one for you to finish: "So a clueless manager, a pitch-to-contact pitcher, and a sub-Mendoza catcher walk into a bar..."

Originally Posted by Dilligaf69

Could care less about essentially our 3rd catcher....but I'm sure that won't stop the bitch fest that's about to unfold..commence fellas!

You're kinda missing the point, which is that most teams that know it's not 1985 DON'T HAVE three catchers.

And if they did, they probably wouldn't also have 12 or 13 pitchers and a dead roster spot half the season for a player who's unanavailable to play but not on the DL.

By my count that makes either three, two or even just one spot on the bench for a backup who's not a catcher. Let your imagination run wild with the late-inning substitution possibilities!

we'll continue to carry three catchers as long as we have two catchers who carry bats potent enough to want in the lineup together as much as possible by slotting them at DH or 1B or wherever Gardy's crystal ball says they should play if they aren't playing catcher. It's an issue created by having two catchers who can also hit very well.

It's still not a reason to carry three catchers, cause at worse, one happens to be at DH when the other is hurt catching and we have the pitcher bat a whole 2, 3 times in that game before another catcher can be recalled for the next game.


If Doumit wasn't on the team, or was just the DH, and Butera (or someone like him offensively) was the #2 catcher, we'd only need two catchers.

In former Twins news...

Matt Garza and the Cubs agreed on a 1 year, $10.25M contract, avoiding arbitration.
Jose Mijares and the Giants agreed to a 1 year, $1.8M contract, avoiding arbitration.
Carlos Gomez and the Brewers agreed to a 1 year, $4.3M contract, avoiding arbitration... So... if you think Butera is overpaid for only be a good defensive player, see this arbitration deal!

Gomez nearly slugged as high as Butera's OPS, stole 40 bases, and posted a ~3 WAR season.


There's no excusing Butera's place on a major league roster, while Gomez had a quality season and is being rewarded for it.

Yup, the speedy Carlos Gomez finally got over an OBP in the .300s...just barely, but he did it....only took him 5 seasons

The Brewers have squeezed something like 8-10 wins out of Gomez and Morgan the past two years.

Speaking of which, Morgan is still available. In the event that Hicks isn't ready, what does Mastro-Morgan platoon do for you?

Originally Posted by ThePuck

Hey, if Doumit and Mauer are both in the lineup (one at DH and one a catcher), and the one catching gets hurt, we'd have to move the one DHing to catcher, forcing the pitcher hit to hit a whole 2, 3 times for one whole game before another catcher got recalled. Could be the difference between a playoff spot and missing the playoffs :-)

Wouldn't forcing a pitcher to hit be about the same as forcing Butera to hit?

Originally Posted by zenser

Wouldn't forcing a pitcher to hit be about the same as forcing Butera to hit?

Pretty much :-)