Thread: Article: Is Terry Ryan Leaving Gardenhire Hung Out to Dry?

Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave

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Hey dude, what happened with the Baker signing again?

Still with the bile?

Originally Posted by Kwak

Still with the bile?

Bile? That ****ty post got exactly the response it deserved. I should have just ignored it altogether though.

Originally Posted by cmathewson

...In contrast, Gardy rarely lets guys play through their slumps. He always plays the hot hand. So he's had a mix-and match, patchwork infield for the last eight years. He'll start benching Plouffe or Dozier at the first sign of trouble. Carroll will be an everyday player at three different positions, whichever one has the cold player. Meanwhile, none of those young guys will get into a rhythm. They'll struggle their way through the season on and off the bench. And, at the end of the year, we once again won't know what we have going into 2014 at three infield positions.

I hope I'm wrong. But that's Gardy's pattern, and it's not sustainable on a team that builds from within.

You might want to check the Game Logs for Plouffe and Dozier from last year before you use them as examples of how Gardy benches young guys at the first sign of a struggle.

Originally Posted by CDog

You might want to check the Game Logs for Plouffe and Dozier from last year before you use them as examples of how Gardy benches young guys at the first sign of a struggle.

Plouffe spent most of the first two months on the bench. Dozier got sent down after playing average. Gardy had quotes in five interviews over three before the demotion saying he wanted to do it. That's pretty typical.

Originally Posted by cmathewson

Plouffe spent most of the first two months on the bench. Dozier got sent down after playing average. Gardy had quotes in five interviews over three before the demotion saying he wanted to do it. That's pretty typical.

Plouffe was on the bench because Gardy was still allowing Valencia to figure it out, another young player not benched at the first sign of trouble. Secondly, neither Dozier or Plouffe were benched at the first signs of trouble, Dozier struggled most of the time and was arguably given more rope than he should have been, for his own benefit. Plouffe went through a number of rough spots after his hot June and largely due to injury to be fair, but he was not benched because of struggling. I don't see how those two serve as good examples of what you're referring to.

Originally Posted by cmathewson

Plouffe spent most of the first two months on the bench. Dozier got sent down after playing average. Gardy had quotes in five interviews over three before the demotion saying he wanted to do it. That's pretty typical.

I don't think you know what average means.

Also, trying to prove a point that players are benched for struggling by saying they were benched BEFORE struggling doesn't really make sense.