12-24-2012, 03:36 PM #61
I keep seeing "oh, well if Liriano flounders he can just come out of the pen" ...Isn't 7M/yr a little much for a guy like him to be coming out of the pen? Obviously he is better in small doses, but his wildness won't just disappear. Comparatively, Mike Adams just signed for 2 yrs/12 M for the Phils. Adams isn't what he used to be but is clearly a step and a half above Liriano in bullpen value. I think the Pirates are expecting Liriano to start and continue to start for the money they are paying him.
12-24-2012, 04:14 PM #62
$7 million for each of 2 years is a little much for Liriano, period.
But expanding on your point, I'm not sure he'd be that great as a reliever. A guy with that kind of control problem and inconsistency could be way more dangerous out of the pen than you think.
12-24-2012, 06:23 PM #63
2yrs 7M isn't much, if he does well the Yankees will want him, if he does bad we can always take him back.
12-24-2012, 06:37 PM #64
If we would have given Liriano 2/14 people would have been (rightfully) freaking out around here.
12-27-2012, 02:13 PM #65
What possible harm would have come from signing a pitcher who at least has the physical tools to be a top of the rotation guy? They can afford five Lirianos, without damaging anything.
12-27-2012, 02:57 PM #66
12-27-2012, 03:39 PM #67
Honestly, the team's best chance of getting a front line pitcher for 2014 (short of an unlikely best-case scenario with one of their prospects) is probably signing one of these high upside guys to a 2/15 type deal and hoping he puts it together, giving you a bargain for the following year (or a very valuable trading chip for next offseason). At worst, they've got $7M next year sunk into a bust, which is barely more than they've got committed to the lousy Correia.
I think they're making a huge mistake by showing no interest in that kind of deal.
12-27-2012, 03:39 PM #68
12-28-2012, 10:48 AM #69
liriano will carve up the national league, but even when he does, it doesn't mean we should've signed him. bringing him back would've led to more of the same, imo.
i have a feeling he goes for 15 wins for the pirates this year, 3.3 e.r.a., 200ks and 70 bbs and helps lead them to a surprise playoff run. and then he falls apart in year two and doesn't finish the season in their rotation.