Thread: John Lannan to the Phillies

Originally Posted by USAFChief

There are posters here seriously proposing that Lannon preferred $2.5m guaranteed over $10m guaranteed?

seriously?

Oh totally. I'd do that in a heartbeat.

Wait, how does addition work?

I do think Lannon would only do a one year deal. His one year deal with incentive will better Correia's one year deal.

He has to believe that he can go to the Phillies and put up Blanton like numbers. Once he does that, he will far exceed Correia's deal.

He does risk injury, but the reward of taking a one year deal is well within reason.

As for the Twins, they did not sign Baker because he wouldn't commit a second year. That second year might have been a key to them. Guys like Lannon and Baker want to do a one year deal and put up numbers. Decline phase guys like Correia need to squeeze out every dollar they can before the door closes on their career.

I would rather have Lannon or Baker and risk losing them after the year.

Originally Posted by nicksaviking

I would have preferred Lannen because he is younger and cheaper than Correia. Otherwise it is a wash seeing as they are pitching clones.

Close to a wash, but this number stands out:

Lannan GB% 53/FB% 27
Correia GB% 44/FB% 36 (2012 #s nothwithstanding)

So the Twins traded their 2 best defensive OFers and offset that by getting the 33%-more of a flyball-prone FA starting pitcher AND paid alot more in guaranteed money besides?

They must REALLY hate Lannan to not have gotten him in as a throw-in in the Span deal.

Originally Posted by jokin

They must REALLY hate Lannan to not have gotten him in as a throw-in in the Span deal.

How does that work given that he was a free agent?

The Span trade happened before Lannan was non-tendered, so the Twins could have said "hey give us the cherry on top and send us Lannan, we'll pick up his arb year." The Nats would have lost or given up anything more than they did but the Twins would have automatically had Lannan.

Good point. The Twins could have John Lannan. He was projected to get 5 million or more in arbitration.

I would have preferred him than Correia.

I think Terry Ryan is looking for players that the Twins can count on in 2013 and 2014. That is why they needed the option in a Baker deal. That may be why they did not want to pay Lannan 5+ million in 2013 only to have him resurrect his career and leave in 2014. Maybe that is why a they favored a two year Correia deal. An extension to Burton fits the plan.

If Ryan is thinking 2014 as he builds 2013, it would seem like a Morneau trade should be part of the same plan.