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    Capuano and Harang

    Morosi reported that the Pirates, Mariners, Twins, Blue Jays and Indians have checked in with the Dodgers on Capuano and Harang.

    My assumption is The Dodgers have to be asking for Perkins. Any thought of offering some scrubs would be pointless to get the trade completed with the Pirates rumored to be offering Hanrahan.

    The Dodgers lack a talented lefty in the pen which brings us back to Perkins.

    Would you do it? Is Perkins enough for both? Is Perkins too much for both? Do pieces have to be added to make a deal work? On wich side should the extra pieces come from?

    What say you all?
    Last edited by Riverbrian; 12-14-2012 at 06:39 PM.

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    I think that this will depend on what other teams offer, but both of these guys seem solid and if the Twins could get them both for Perkins that would seem to be a good deal for the Twins.

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    I would rather sign Myers and Villanueva to similar contracts/money and keep Perkins.

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    Would think the Dodgers would want more. Perkins might get one of the two, but not both. Dodgers may want significant bullpen help for the two of them

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    Perkins and Duensing should not be considered. I'm definitely interested in either Capuano or Harang, but neither should cost that much.

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    Seth... What do you think would get the job done?

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    These guys will be 34 and 35 years old.

    It would be foolish to trade any future assets to get marginally better in 2013. It makes no sense after the deals of Span and Revere.
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    I wouldn't trade Correia for both of them and if you can't judge talent better than that I think you should quit.

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    In my opinion, I'd trade a C and a D prospect for either of them. No one with big upside, for sure. They're old. They're one year band-aids. The Dodgers are looking to trade them. Just to put some numbers, maybe a Twins 25-30 prospect and a 40-50 type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Gun View Post
    I wouldn't trade Correia for both of them and if you can't judge talent better than that I think you should quit.
    Are you just trying to start something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
    In my opinion, I'd trade a C and a D prospect for either of them. No one with big upside, for sure. They're old. They're one year band-aids. The Dodgers are looking to trade them. Just to put some numbers, maybe a Twins 25-30 prospect and a 40-50 type?
    Harang doesn't do much for me... But Capuano does... He's been pretty good in my opinion.

    I guess I must be over valuing a bit... What if Dee Gordon was included?

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    If the Twins can get either Capuano or Harang at a deep discount, sure get one of them. They are both better than any fourth or fifth starter in the Twins system. The big thing for this team is developing good starting pitching for the future. The development of Meyer, May and Gibson is crucial to the team. I could add Berrios and Wimmers and others, but let's stop there.

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    Chad Gaudin and Aaron Cook seem more realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverbrian View Post
    Are you just trying to start something?
    I was going to say the same thing. Both of these guys are older, but are better than Correia, AND both of them are cheaper than correia. Harang is a former strikeout champion (2006) and capuano is a former 18 game winner with a consistent ERA under 4.00... I do agree we shouldn't trade our future chips for them, but i think we can steal these guys and maybe make the 2013 season at least a little interesting. I'd much rather watch both of these guys than Deduno, Devries and hendriks again

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    I don't know if we could steal them. Maybe include Gordon or Punto in the deal? Naw, I would just as soon sign a couple of non-yendered or, let's go after Marcum.
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    To include Perkins in any of this is crazy. A high upside left hander who has been close to dominant out of the pen for a couple of over the hill placeholders is not a good deal. What is the fascination around here with washed up, aged pitching? I'm all for signing somebody that will be here 4 years from now but otherwise................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosterman View Post
    I don't know if we could steal them. Maybe include Gordon or Punto in the deal? Naw, I would just as soon sign a couple of non-yendered or, let's go after Marcum.
    Pirates are rumored to be talking about the Hammer for Capuano. It's a rumor... But Hanrahan has some value... I would imagine...

    I really don't know what it would take... That's why I'm asking for opinions... Capuano would be good for 2013 and 2014 with the option. I'd like him in a Twins uniform with Marcum.

    Nothing about Capuano's numbers say washed up to me. We do need pitchers this year.
    Last edited by Riverbrian; 12-14-2012 at 09:23 PM.

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    For these pitchers, there is more reason for the Dodgers to get rid of them than for a team to pay for them, because they are fairly old and aren't exactly great. If we could get both of them for Perkins I would think about it, but I would have to say that I would still be more interested in going out and spending money on a guy like Edwin Jackson or Shaun Marcum than trading for those two.

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    Hanrahan has little to no value to the Dodgers who are flush with swell right handed bullpen options. The Twins would be better off trying to get Capuano and Lilly. Pay both of their salaries in full in exchange for a halfway decent prospect and a not so good one. Maybe a lefty relief prospect and Benson, just to further deplete the CF depth. Really, I bet the first team willing to take 100% of their contracts will get them for whoever. I know the Dodger have money, but they can't actually want to be paying 16 Million to pitch in AAA, in case of injury.

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    They are two old guys who did a decent job filling their role on their ballclub. A decent trade might be send them Blackburn.

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