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12-13-2012, 05:20 PM #1
Would you have gone 5 years and $80M for Anibal Sanchez?
Earlier Nick asked if you would go 2 years and $30 million on RHP Ryan Dempster, who apparently signed with the Boston Red Sox for 2 years and $26 million.
It sounds as though the Cubs and RHP Anibal Sanchez are nearing a 5 year, $75 million deal. So, the similar question for the forum is: Would you have signed Anibal Sanchez for 5 years and 80 million? They theory, of course, is that the Twins would have had to overpay a little bit to have "won" the Sanchez derby.
I would have liked the deal at 5 years and $75 million, so I would be good with 5 years and $80 million just because he is very good, and unlike most free agents, he is still young and so the five years on him wouldn't scare me quite as much as a 3 year deal on some 33 year old.
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12-13-2012, 05:23 PM #2Senior Member Double-A
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I wouldn't touch Dempster for anything close to that, but Sanchez unless there is something else either in the medical reports or just personal history, seems like a good deal. I would take this deal over the Correia signing any day of the week.
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12-13-2012, 05:44 PM #3Senior Member Triple-A
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12-13-2012, 05:45 PM #4
Heck I would be alright giving him 6/90 like he asked for originally
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12-13-2012, 05:53 PM #5Senior Member Big-Leaguer
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uuhhmmmm dam skippy, but we need to remember who is captining this ship
Sanchez would be a piece to the puzzle and would contribute after the rebuilding stag..
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12-13-2012, 05:54 PM #6
The good news with dempster and Sanchez is neither one got an absurd salary, which means we should be able to get marcum or Jackson at a half way decent rate
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12-13-2012, 05:55 PM #7
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12-13-2012, 05:55 PM #8Senior Member Triple-A
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If all years have the same salary.. that contract is going to look like a steal in the back half.. assuming he doesn't completely fall off a cliff.
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12-13-2012, 06:10 PM #9Senior Member Big-Leaguer
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12-13-2012, 06:12 PM #10Senior Member All-Star
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Sanchez - yes
Demster - no way.
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12-13-2012, 06:22 PM #11Banned All-Star
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Sure. He's probably worth it and would have been around for the finished rebuild.
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12-13-2012, 06:37 PM #12
My thoughts exactly. We not only need help in 2013 but in the years to follow. With Demsters age, he isn't going to be around when we need him. Not only in terms of the contract, but also with his age he won't be pitching at the level we need in 2015 and beyond.
Buy quality or youth and hopefully both in the same contract.
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12-13-2012, 06:39 PM #13
I would consider it because he's young, and with a longer-term deal, he would be more than just a bridge to the next set of pitching prospects; instead, he could actually provide some veteran leadership while Meyer and May get acquainted with the league (heck, even Gibson, Hendriks, and possibly even Wimmers too).
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12-13-2012, 06:53 PM #14Senior Member Big-Leaguer
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Apperently Sanchez is still in play ,should the twins jump in with an offer of 5/80,and a opt out after 3 years?
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12-13-2012, 06:58 PM #15
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12-13-2012, 07:14 PM #16Member Rookie
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I didn't like the Dempster contract but I wouldn't mind the Twins doing this, although I think that maybe they could have tried to get him at 6/90 or even 6/85.
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12-13-2012, 07:21 PM #17
It's not my money, so yes make him an offer he can't turn down. We will be overpaying, but that is what the market is dictating the price is for a quality starting pitcher. Kind of like paying $3 a gallon for gas the first time, it seemed like we were being robbed every time we filled up. Now it looks like a bargain.
This is a very disappointing off season if we don't add anyone better than Correia.
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12-13-2012, 07:21 PM #18
My snap reaction was yes I would sign Sanchez. Then I tried to think about how Terry Ryan sees it, in terms of risk. Sign him to 5 years, then the last year of the contract you'll be paying him (say) $15M or $16M in 2017. This is right in the heart of the new window of competitiveness, right? Will that $16M be part of the winning formula? Or will it be a boat-anchor preventing you from making a deal to push this juggernaut team to a second straight title?
Well, roll the clock back 5 years to 2007. Not that all of these pitchers were available to sign at the time, but let's focus on who was completing his 28-year-old season, just as Sanchez is now. Limit it to guys who clearly were established starters. These 28-year-olds were:
Carlos Silva
Johan Santana
Gil Meche
John Lackey
Jeremy Guthrie
Mark Buehrle
Erik Bedard
Isn't this kind of a Murderer's Row of pitchers who teams actually *did* make an investment in? And with the exception of Buehrle, aren't they the ones that, 5 years later, fans of their current teams wail and gnash their teeth over?
Now put yourself in Ryan's shoes. Are you really going to pull the trigger on Sanchez for 5 years?
As I said above, I would. And this quick little bit of research reaffirms my reminder to myself, that when Terry Ryan and I disagree about something, take another good hard look.Last edited by ashburyjohn; 12-13-2012 at 07:25 PM.
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12-13-2012, 07:24 PM #19
Just saw this on CBS sports
Unlike Josh Hamilton, Anibal Sanchez is giving his old team the last shot at his services. After being offered a reported $75 million over five years by the Cubs, Sanchez gave the Tigers one more chance to match the offer, CBSSports.com's Jon Heyman reports.
Detroit had been offering a four-year deal to Sanchez, but in reaction to the offer from the Cubs, the team will likely have to offer five years in order to keep him.
I wonder if he is giving anyone else a shot still?
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12-13-2012, 07:26 PM #20Member Rookie
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I'd go 5 yrs. 80 mil or 6 yrs. 90 mil. Please reference the thread with the idea floated about trading Morneau and Willingham to Texas. This would be part of the rebuild. With the pitching staff we would have for this year, fronted by Sanchez, and the young talent in the pipeline, the Twins could surprise some people in 2013 but would be a force to be reckoned with in 2014 and beyond. You spend for QUALITY. Sanchez is quality.



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