So if Appel is the pick at #4 in the June draft, does he go right into the #3 spot in the rotation or does he still get sent to Ft. Myers?
Here is a real paradigm shift. Time to trade Mauer and let the real rebuild start.
Here are the stats of 2 Pitchers from the 2012 season:
W L ERA G GS IP H R ER HR BB S0 AVG. WHIP
12 9 3.54 27 27 173.0 184 76 68 17 31 90 .274 1.24
12 11 4.21 32 28 171.0 176 89 80 20 46 89 .267 1.30
One of these Pitchers we seem to like and the other pitcher is causing a negative reaction from Twins Daily Posters and the usually sensible Twins Daily management as well.
Just wanted to point this out... Everyone can go back to lighting your torches and throwing stones.
Correia struck out 4.68 hitters per nine innings last year, tied for third-worst among qualified pitchers. He had the second-lowest percentage of swinging strikes in the majors.
What does Diamond make again? Diamond pitched in the AL, while Marquis, er, Ponson, er, Hernandez, er...Ortiz, er, I mean Correia pitched in the NL.
Diamond is on a year to year deal. He pitched in the AL. He makes the league minimum. He is younger. He was not sent to the pen last year. The numbers need to be put in context.
Sure this signing sucks, and everyone seems to agree that signing no one would be better. But if TR did sign no one everyone would be complaining about that also. Guy can't win - unless he spends $100 million on pitching.
''We want the kind of pitchers we haven't had enough of," Twins assistant general manager Rob Antony said. "Pitchers who can miss bats."
No one is asking Ryan to spend 100 million on pitching. One legit pitcher is around 13-15 per year. Add in one or two flyers for less than 5MM per year, and the pitching budget is less than what Mauer makes. Is that really unreasonable?
I don't think I have seen more negativity or anger over a single topic that has been posted on TD. I think most of it is just disappointment this signing isn't a bigger fish. Sure, Correia isn't a high profile strikeout pitcher, but lets give him a chance, before we burn him at the stake. Personally I like this signing. I envision Correia being very similar to Pavano in his first two seasons with the Twins. I think he's a guy that can go out there and keep the Twins in the game and give them a chance to win. These comparisons to Blackburn and Walters are more than a little ridiculous. Apparently all this snow has frozen people's brains and they've already forgotten how absolutely horrible the Twins' pitching was last season. Here's a refresher:
Liriano, 3-10, 5.31 ERA, 1.44 WHIP
Blackburn, 4-9, 7.39 ERA, 1.71 WHIP
Walters, 2-5, 5.69 ERA, 1.51 WHIP
Hendriks, 1-8, 5.59 ERA, 1.55 WHIP
Are the memories coming back now? To say these guys are equal to or better than Correia is absolute hogwash. He'll definitely be an upgrade to the rotation and I'm confident TR will sign a more significant name to add to the rotation, in the coming weeks.
A. I'm not really defending the signing... He wouldn't have been my first choice but I really don't know that TR signing Correia First necessarily means that he was TR's first choice either.
B. My post wasn't meant to slam Diamond or directly cause a comparison between the two. Comparing players is impossible. I just wanted to point out that the difference between Diamond and Correia when it comes to numbers in 2012 are very similiar.
C. Similiar numbers simply points out that it's possible that we are losing our minds a little here.
D. I'm as shocked by the salary as anyone but the market is the market and we have little control over that... Much like we can't control the price of gas.
E. Age is why he's making 5 Million and Diamond is making 500,000. That's the way baseball is structured. If Diamond was eligible for FA... The salary for Diamond would change... It's really a non-point to make.
F. Fielding Independant Stats will always be tough on pitchers with low K-Rates.
G. The Difference in ERA between the two over 170 Innings is 12 earned runs. A lot of factors can make up the difference in 12 runs over the year. One Ben Revere catch at the right time... Can save you 4 earned runs in a single inning. It isn't worth wringing your hands over.
H. Next year... Correia could be at 4.05 and Diamond could be at 4.35... Things change.
I. I'm not defending the signing... He wouldn't have been my first choice but the Blackburn and Marquis comparisons are a bit much. Blackburn and Marquis had ERA's over 8 for the Twins in 2012.
J. LOL... I'm sure your torches are still lit.
I agree that was never in the cards from the beginning. TR has never done it and never will. I just wish they would shed a little more light on what goes on behind the scenes - otherwise, like the commentors said above - all this bantering is uninformed gibberish.