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I don't think he is an ace, but I agree that he is a perfect fit for what we are (should be) looking for. Young, team control through 2014-2015 (when we should be back competing again. I think there is a huge advantage for a pitcher to get out of Texas. His numbers would look much better with half his games played at Target Field.Quote:
Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz
Does it seem that all of the SP we have heard rumors about are lefty?
Let me rephrase my comments on Holland......I dont think he's an ace right now......but I believe he will become one soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by minn55441I don't think he is an ace, but I agree that he is a perfect fit for what we are (should be) looking for. Young, team control through 2014-2015 (when we should be back competing again. I think there is a huge advantage for a pitcher to get out of Texas. His numbers would look much better with half his games played at Target Field.Quote:
Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz
Does it seem that all of the SP we have heard rumors about are lefty?
So my thoughts are more of a prediction on a 26yr old that really impresses me.
I have no idea what the Rangers would want for him - I think bullpen or firstbase. I wonder how high they are on Arcia? LH power plays well in TX and less so in TF. But I wonder if TX wants immediate help over a prospect.
Holland's contract - 2013 - $3.2M; 2014 - $5.4M; 2015 - $7.4M; 2016 - $10M; 2017 - $11M club option, $1.5M buyout; 2018 -$11.5M club option, $1M buyout. That's cheap, especially with new TV deal starting soon. He becomes the veteran to go along with Meyer, Gibson, and Diamond and maybe Berrios. Compare that to Guthrie at 3/$24M. Even if we had to pay part of Morneau's contract I'd do it.
Holland's contract is spectacularly good for whatever team has him......bad for him tho
Makes you wonder if the option years become guaranteed if he gets traded...Quote:
Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz
It would still be a good contract for the Twins, just not a great one.
Reever, Morneau, and Butera?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Crikket
Why would that happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by TRexMakes you wonder if the option years become guaranteed if he gets traded...Quote:
Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz
Even if Texas signs a starter why would Texas be trading SP/ Feldman, Oswalt, and Dempster are off the rotation, Holland becomes your 4th starter, Lewis your fifth. A prospect can take over when the summer heat becomes too much for one of them.
He's still only 31 at the end of the option years. Compare that to what we paid Pavano. Holland has much more upside. Send them Revere, Morneau, $7M, and choice of Boyd, Williams or Hauser, for Holland and a prospect.Quote:
Originally Posted by TRexMakes you wonder if the option years become guaranteed if he gets traded...Quote:
Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz
It would still be a good contract for the Twins, just not a great one.
If TX wants Morneau and a Kepler level prospect, I'm hoping JR pulls the trigger
Yea - with Feliz and Lewis out until at least June, maybe we better set this aside until the trade deadline, even if they sign Grienke AND Sanchez.Quote:
Originally Posted by old nurse
Oh man, I dont know about trading Kepler. Scouts are raving about him, and I like him alot.Quote:
Originally Posted by crapforks
What about Hicks and Morneau? I think that is what they would ask for, not that I would pull the trigger on that deal. Maybe a throw-in from Texas like Olt or Profar...I like to kid around...but Hicks for Morneau what do you think?
Hicks and Morneau.....HELL NOQuote:
Originally Posted by Twins Twerp
I would without a doubt trade Hicks and Morneau for Holland even if his contract wasn't so team friendly. The Twins need to address the future that Morneau isn't part of and Hicks is a nice prospect but he hasn't done anything yet and the Twins have tons of OF'ers. Holland still needs to take the step from solid starter to well above average but I'm a big Holland fan if he can get out of Texas.
Texas is contending. They might want to fill ml needs more than they would want to get prospects
naww, flip
red sox : perkins, hicks, doizer, salcedo
twins: Elsburry, lester
As much as I would like this trade....I dont think the Red Sox would do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CC7
i feel like they would