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10-28-2012, 09:32 PM #1
Mackey: Twins may make another move for Mark Buehrle
http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/M..._Buehrle102812
1500espn's Phil Mackey writes that the Twins may take another stab at LHP Mark Buehrle this offseason. He has a couple of years left on the free agent contract he signed with the Miami Marlins last offseason, and I would think that the Twins would insist that the Marlins pick up some of the contract. And then it would be a matter of which prospect(s) the Twins would have to give up as well. Left-handed. He's been a given for 200 innings for years.
What do you think?
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10-28-2012, 10:47 PM #2Senior Member All-Star
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Enough with the K/9 challenged pitchers please. Pass, pass, pass. This team needs to find pitchers that can hit a catchers glove for strike three.
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10-28-2012, 11:31 PM #3
Id actually prefer them to pass with the money owed to him as well as age....also the non K type of pitcher.
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10-28-2012, 11:52 PM #4Senior Member Big-Leaguer
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Yes, strikeout pitchers are grand and all, but let's be realistic here folks; we're not going to be able to assemble a staff full of Verlanders between now and spring training. So there is some wisdom in contemplating ways to improve the rotation that are actually within the realm of possibility.
And it's not like Buehrle can't strike people out. He had 125 K's last year. Not exactly an eye-popping number, but it's more than any Twins pitcher had. Plus the fact that he doesn't win by overpowering people makes it a lot more likely that he's got a few good years left in him.
The Twins need guys who can pitch well enough to eat innings and give them a chance to win. Buehrle fits that bill. Plus in terms of a veteran to rub off on Diamond, Gibson and some of the other younger guys, you could do a lot worse than Mark Buehrle.
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10-29-2012, 01:54 AM #5Banned All-Star
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I love Buerhle although I'm worried about him declining and he is owed a lot of money. It would be pretty risky. He could turn into a pumpkin overnight. I'm ok with it so long as we don't have to give up a top 6 prospect.
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10-29-2012, 06:54 AM #6Senior Member Big-Leaguer
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A rotation of Buerle, a healthy Scott Baker, a healthy Marcum, Scott Diamond not regressing, and Gibson for for most of the year could produce a very winning regular season team. The asking price for Buerle is the problem. The near major league ready high upside prospects the Twins have are few. The Twins would have to eat some salary. The alternative is an empty Target Field.
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10-29-2012, 07:05 AM #7Senior Member Double-A
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Buehrle - might as well. Yeah he doesn't strike a ton out, but he is a competent pitcher on a current staff that doesn't have any (exception being Diamond)
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10-29-2012, 07:21 AM #8
Ugh. Buerhle's contract is awful. He's slated to make almost $20m as a 36 year old.
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10-29-2012, 07:41 AM #9Senior Member Big-Leaguer
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better to make a run at josh johnson,cheaper throws harder, younger , then theres shields....tampas looking to move him let get curly on the phone and see what they will take for him, these 2 would make a nice front of the rotation for any club...
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10-29-2012, 07:53 AM #10Senior Member Triple-A
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Phil Mackey = Sid Hartman
Take an opinion, a couple of loosely related facts, write it as a story. Nowhere does he state the Twins ARE interested in Buerhle, just that he thinks the might be. He gets paid for writing this? I would think the Twins might be interested in acquiring ANY pitcher they believe would help their team. That probably constitutes about 75% of the current starters in all of baseball.
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10-29-2012, 08:40 AM #11Senior Member Double-A
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Would they take Revere and Parmelee? The Marlins have a need for a 1B. If that was all we gave up and maybe a low level prospect and the Marlins ate 20 million of the contract I would do that in a heartbeat. I don't know Miami's need for OF's they may want one of Hick/ Arcia instead of Revere and that makes this proposal lopsided unless Miami thows in something else. Depending on the cost there are other P's to be had too. But having 2 players at the league minimum for the next 2-3 years will allow Miami to eat 20 million in salary as know they would be paying about 4 million for each for the next 3 seasons.
Last edited by Brandon; 10-29-2012 at 08:47 AM. Reason: add a statement
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10-29-2012, 09:08 AM #12
If the Twins give up anything of significance, the Marlins better pay a significant portion of Buerhle's contract. He's due to make a combined $37m in his age 35 and 36 seasons. Ugh.
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10-29-2012, 10:54 AM #13Senior Member All-Star
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Why should the Twins give up any young talent OR pay big $ for a 33 year-old who makes the pretty suspect Twins defense get 80% of his outs? Buerhle and the other low K/9 guys make no sense unless the Twins get back to their old multiple gold glove ways. Radke/Milton/Mays can get the job done when Koske/Guzman/Rivas/Mientkiewicz are standing behind them. The top 5 defensive days for the Twins are long gone. Instead of paying that contract and/or giving up prospects, use the money on the Peavy/Haren/Marcum types. Sub 7.0 K/9 need not apply.
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10-29-2012, 11:32 AM #14Senior Member All-Star
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I will laugh if they give up legit talent and take on most of the salary. Heck, I will laugh if they take on more than 10 million a year, as they could just sign guys for that.



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