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I *heart* Parker.
This reminds me of your analysis of Willingham last year. Marcum is a pitcher who might fit very well in this ballpark and somehow will be fairly cheap.
Am I to believe that the Twins could baseline Baker and Marcum for a combined amount under $10 million for one year!? Let roll the damn incentives up to $20 million! If they perform great, $20 million would be worth it. If not,$10 or so is not killing the team for one year.
According to Ryan, you aren't getting a pitcher unless it's a multi-year deal. Would Marcum be an exception to that?
I would be happy with anything between 1-3 years for Marcum. Obviously 1 is low risk for the ball club, but 2-3 would control his cost in case he stays healthy and outperforms his contract like Willingham did this year.
Marcum will not save the Twins, he is nottin more than what we got.
True. Marcum does have two arms, two legs, and is capable of throwing a baseball from a mound.Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Gun
Past that, there aren't many similarities between him and the crap the Twins rolled out in the #2-5 spots in the rotation.
FYI - It's Shaun, not Shawn.
So maybe a Pavano lookalike (when at his best - think 2010) or a touch better, if only because of some consistency. Not a true number 1, but mid to top of the rotation guy. 60% wins, 3.7+/- era and 200 innings. That would be better than almost all of what was run out there last year.
I'd give a guy like Marcum two years with a team option for the third.Quote:
Originally Posted by Land Of 10,000 Beasts
Did I hear Bruce Chen?
Maybe the Twins could work out a trade with the Royals for Chen. He's only under contract through 2013 for 4.5 million.
He's not my top choice by any means. Fastball velocity could get even more scary as he ages.
If Marcum is one of 2-3 solid additions to the rotation, I'd be OK with that. If he's THE new top man of the Twins 2013 rotation, not so OK with it.
I think Marcum is gonna have 5-10 teams chasing him as a 1-2 yr cheap option & that will drive up his price to 3yrs & put him 'just' out of the Twins range (which they seem to do often)
Marcum would be a great addition. He'd be the best pitcher we've signed in FA since Kenny Rogers.
Marcum would be a nice addition. If there's competition for him, the Twins are unlikely to get him, however.
Something tells me he gets away.
There's bound to be competition for pretty much anyone of value, which means you may have to roll the dice and go a little high for someone. I'd like to have Marcum, but I'm not sure he'd be the guy I would overspend for.
Seriously, don't the Twins have a half dozen Marcums in the organization already? There seems to be no need to commit years to a pitcher that doesn't represent a meaningful change for the future? It's better to commit to one excellent pitcher than two "decent" veterans.
It's clear that you have no idea how good marcum is. The Twins have ZERO pitchers as good as Marcum. the concern is that he'll be injured and not pitch at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwak
ERA's the last five years
3.39
TJ
3.64
3.54
3.70
Yeah I've always been a big fan of Marcum. I'd be content with him as the best addition to this staff, primarily because I think he may be the best pitcher available this offseason if he stays healthy. Yes, that means I think he may be better than Grienke if he can stay on the mound.