Thread: Rand: What If The Red Sox Go After Morneau And Mauer

http://m.startribune.com/?id=167498615

Seems like a good Monday morning talker....

The Red Sox dumped three of their biggest players and only got 1 reasonable prospect in return. The move was made to shed payroll. If the Red Sox were to come after Mauer and Morneau, surely they would see this trade under the same light, namely a salary dump in which they would not be forced to give up many high ceiling prospects. I'm not interested in dropping Mauer in a scenario where the Twins don't load up on a bunch of prospects. Given his salary and the precedence set by the Dodgers/Red Sox trade, that doesn't seem likely.

If you get the prospects needed,

go for it.

Neither will win a ring in MN. This org needs an overhaul.

When owner Pohlad thinks they only need Tweaking....

Please sell the team to someone who truly cares about baseball.

I'll say this....Morneau and Mauer both make some sense for the Red Sox.

- I'd love to see what Mauer could do in that ballpark. It could completely change the perception about him.
- And now that the Sox have managed to trade both Gonzalez and Youk, they're going to have some needs at first base (and a damn thin free agent market to tap).

At the very least I can see the Sox calling the Twins about Morneau.

If the Twins trade M&M I will quit following bseball.

Top Gun, I can understand where you're coming from.

Morneau,though, is likely gone, either via trade in the next year, or Free Agency.

The Twins will probably continue to use Mauer's contract as a crutch in spending any money on pitching, and TRyan has already
said they won't spend in Free Agency. Have no idea why. Probably because they're constantly throwing big money away on
poor decisions.

I would have probably felt this way a couple years ago. No longer. The Twins need help in numerous areas.
With Mauer/Morneau, they're not contenders next year unless they hit the bullseye on every deal / transaction.

It's too bad they've buried themselves like this(the Twins). Great players/longtime Twins that have no chance at a ring here.

I can't see the Sox or any other team giving much in return for Mauer.

Yes, I bet that Justin Morneau will be playing for Boston next year. Maybe Henry Owens and Drake Britton in return?

The Twins would get 3 top 15 Sox prospects back for Mauer, FYI.

I don't want it to happen, but I can't believe people would doubt the haul would be significant!

If the Twins trade Mauer anytime in the next 3-4 years, it would be unforgivable in my eyes. The dude is a future hall of famer in the prime of his career, a team gets a player like that once or twice in a generation, add to the fact he is a local guy/local legend. No way.

Yes, his contract is large, but it isn't the reason the Twins aren't competitive. They can have another 70- 80 million dollars to assemble the rest of the team with (plus more in the future), that is plenty of money to build a club.

Originally Posted by shanewahl

The Twins would get 3 top 15 Sox prospects back for Mauer, FYI.

I don't want it to happen, but I can't believe people would doubt the haul would be significant!

A Top 15 prospect in the Red sox system might not even make an impact at the Major League level.

Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave

Yes, his contract is large, but it isn't the reason the Twins aren't competitive. They can have another 70- 80 million dollars to assemble the rest of the team with (plus more in the future), that is plenty of money to build a club.

Except the Twins keep throwing money away year after year. Decision making on personnel has been spotty- at best.

They both would be great fits for Fenway but I don't see it. I can see the Twins trying to move Morneau but not Mauer, not with 6 yrs left on his deall....maybe in 2 yrs if he's stays healthy which is a big if and a reason why the Twins might consider it. Thing is I don't think Mauer would waive his no-trade. He's from here, he like is it here his finace and here family are from MN, and frankly he makes a ton of money without the pressure a town like Boston would bring. Also the Sox did get Loney who is solid...anyone know his contract status as far as yrs left???

Originally Posted by nicksaviking

The Red Sox dumped three of their biggest players and only got 1 reasonable prospect in return. The move was made to shed payroll. If the Red Sox were to come after Mauer and Morneau, surely they would see this trade under the same light, namely a salary dump in which they would not be forced to give up many high ceiling prospects. I'm not interested in dropping Mauer in a scenario where the Twins don't load up on a bunch of prospects. Given his salary and the precedence set by the Dodgers/Red Sox trade, that doesn't seem likely.

Yeah, and we would have to get that top P prospect back plus a bunch more and since pitching is also Boston's biggest need I don't see it.

Originally Posted by Mr. Ed

Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave

Yes, his contract is large, but it isn't the reason the Twins aren't competitive. They can have another 70- 80 million dollars to assemble the rest of the team with (plus more in the future), that is plenty of money to build a club.

Except the Twins keep throwing money away year after year. Decision making on personnel has been spotty- at best.

Yeah but that's the Pavano's, Capps, Blackie's etc...not Mauer. It's not the good players they have trouble with, it's the bad ones they think are good.

I can't really see the Twins getting the prospects that they would be asking for if they were to deal both Mauer and Morneau (and I don't want them to deal Mauer).

Originally Posted by Dilligaf69

They both would be great fits for Fenway but I don't see it. I can see the Twins trying to move Morneau but not Mauer, not with 6 yrs left on his deall....maybe in 2 yrs if he's stays healthy which is a big if and a reason why the Twins might consider it. Thing is I don't think Mauer would waive his no-trade. He's from here, he like is it here his finace and here family are from MN, and frankly he makes a ton of money without the pressure a town like Boston would bring. Also the Sox did get Loney who is solid...anyone know his contract status as far as yrs left???

Loney is a free agent next year 2013

The fans would have an uprising if the Twins traded both their stars mere years after opening a partially publicly funded ballpark. For better or worse, the Twins are going to hold on to Mauer.

Mauer has a long way to go for consideration in the HOF.