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08-21-2012, 12:53 PM #21
Crikket: Isn't the worst part of the TV coverage (lack thereof) in Iowa that even on nationally televised games (espn i.e.) Iowa is blacked out? The situation is an outrage. I long for the day that tv stations will be a la carte, like iTunes. This is one area where congress should get involved to clean up the mlb/cable monopolies and tv station access.
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08-21-2012, 12:54 PM #22Senior Member Double-A
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08-21-2012, 01:03 PM #23
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08-21-2012, 01:42 PM #24
Is there a good reason to add Hicks to the 40 man before November? I can't think of one.
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08-21-2012, 01:46 PM #25Senior Member Triple-A
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Seth, if Florimon's defense is this legit and he isn't given to lapses like Alexi seems to have too often, I would be very happy with him as our SS next season. He reminds me a little of Alexi Ramirez in terms of speed and body.
Jimminy Crickett, I too agree that MLB.tv would be awesome if not for the blackout stuff. I have to think that MLB is protecting their broadcast partners (FSN here for the Twins) by blacking out the market that FSN is trying to sell too. I had the season pass last year and ended up watching teams that I never would have had the opportunity to watch before.
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08-21-2012, 03:33 PM #26Senior Member All-Star
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08-21-2012, 03:38 PM #27
Actually, some of us get both...living in Iowa and being able to watch the Twins. In my case here in north Iowa, my cable company carries FSN so almost every Twins game is on TV - HD even. Of course, that doesn't make the Twins any better.
And, for those who don't live in Iowa and have not reason to know this, MLB.tv blacks out SIX MLB teams in Iowa (whether they are on FSN, FOX, ESPN or WGN) because we are considered "in market" for all of them! (Twins, Brewers, Cubs, White Sox, Cardinals, Royals) It does tend to make us a bit cranky if we are interested in one of those teams and our cable provider chooses to be "in market" for the wrong team for our interests. A little sympathy and help pressuring the Twins management and MLB from you Minnesotans would be appreciated.Last edited by TwinsMusings; 08-21-2012 at 03:55 PM.
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08-21-2012, 04:13 PM #28
I thought that was you, Mr. Bonnes, across the Saints' grandstand, but with just your display picture to go off of, I wasn't certain.
It is nice to step away from the Twins for an evening and enjoy another local team's baseball performance. I just wish the rosters they handed out included batting stats, and not just height/weight/age/hometown. I'd feel like a much more informed and invested fan. And while they sometimes put up those stats on the scoreboard during the at-bats, it's not with enough regularity to feel useful to me.
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08-21-2012, 04:42 PM #29
He said something about him (like how well he is doing and he is fulfilling the big expectations they had for him) but really totally diplomatic (I did not detect a hint) when Tom Pelissero asked him on his ESPN 1500 show (6ish PM CDT?)
He will need a spot for 2013 anyways (Arcia too). Just hard to see him do that right now, unless Span is well done.-----
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08-21-2012, 04:50 PM #30Senior Member Big-Leaguer
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Oh I'll keep watching, and probably attend in person at least a couple of more times.
I'm really interested to see how these guys, youngsters and vets alike, finish out the season. Last year, it was 10-32 in the last quarter. A repeat of that, and heads should start rolling immediately after the last out of the final game.
Most of our games left are against division opponents, so there's opportunity to play spoiler and climb out of last place.
We've also got the Yankees coming to town. We split in the Bronx in April, so we can win the season series. They may be resting regulars by then, but it would still be a nice little moral victory.
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08-21-2012, 05:28 PM #31
I hate to make this a referendum on TV watching in Iowa (and to hijack the thread to focus on that issue) but I want to add a couple of things. JC and I have been over this in the past so he knows my position.
I agree that having 6 MLB teams blacked out can stink. BUT for some of us, it is a great thing. I have DISH network. Without subscribing to any additional "baseball package", I get all 6 of the "blackout" teams -- Twins, Royals, Cardinals, White Sox, Cubs and Brewers on a number of different regional sports stations and they are all included without extra fee. Add that to the Mets on WPIX, plus MLB network and MLB alternative and there's plenty of chances to watch most teams so I see absolutely no reason to shell out for internet mlb or a satellite baseball package.
I also live in a community where my local cable carrier includes FSN. JC's problem is that he is in southeast (okay southcentral-east Iowa) where his cable provider probably offers the Cubs, White Sox and/or Cardinals.
I sympathize with JC's complaints (even as I feel like I reap the benefits of the whole thing) but the problem is that Iowa really is a very mixed baseball market. Depending on where you live, you may traditionally have been a Twins, Royals, Cardinals, White Sox or Cubs fan (Brewers probably less so even in Northeast Iowa). One solution would probably be to simply make an exception for Iowa on the mlb tv rules while leaving everybody else alone. I don't think there is another state with a similar situation of being considered in the market of so many teams.Last edited by JB_Iowa; 08-21-2012 at 05:47 PM.
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08-21-2012, 05:33 PM #32
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08-22-2012, 02:03 PM #33
Obviously most players' MLB stats are not as high as the ones they posted in the minors. But there are exceptions. Who can name some? Ready, Go...
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08-22-2012, 04:24 PM #34
Matt Holliday comes to mind right away.
I also think you will find quite a few examples. The outta nowhere stories are all over baseball.
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08-22-2012, 05:06 PM #35Senior Member All-Star
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08-22-2012, 06:49 PM #36
One guy who comes to mind immediately is Denard Span.
8 minor league seasons, .711 career minor league OPS. Posted exactly one .800 OPS (in a 49 game sample in high A ball). .723 AAA OPS and .693 AA OPS.
.748 career major league OPS, with two seasons above .800
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08-22-2012, 10:59 PM #37
Are you aware of the ridiculousness of the blackout restrictions in Iowa? The Twins, Brewers, Royals, Cardinals, Cubs, and White Sox, Iowa is "home territory" to them all. What a fantastic way to build support for your game.
The MLB's blackout policy is an archaic disaster."Maybe you could go grab a bat and ball… and learn something. Maybe you will get it."
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08-22-2012, 11:42 PM #38
Furthermore, the Twins were broadcasted on WHO radio across the entire state and beyond in the 60s and 70s I believe (my father tells me), surely someone on here knows exactly (I looked this up to no avail). This was before the Cubs moved their AAA team to Des Moines. In short, Iowa used to be much more Twins territory... there is not even a station in Des Moines (nor 80% of the state) with the Twins games now. It's quite a loss of ground leading to the current cluster "mess" If only the Twins would have moved to Des Moines in 1981.
Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains.
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08-23-2012, 12:11 AM #39
Snepp... FUBAR is the acronym that describes it.
The map needs to be fixed... And it most likely won't because the owners won't be able to stay out of each others way. Money is involved. There are a few states FUBAR like Iowa is... Yet Iowa is especially FUBAR because 6 teams all claiming it is just plain over the top.
First off the Cubs and White Sox don't need Iowa... Chicago, Indiana and the Rest of Illinois is big enough.
The Brewers and Royals are non factors...
The state should be divided up between the Cardinals and Twins... Easy enough... And if the owners can't get out of each others way here... Let Iowa be the beneficiary and remove the blackout... Let the state actually get the baseball that the clubs are fighting over.
And while they're at it... boot the Cubs AAA out of Iowa as well. Let them have Indianapolis... Move Pittsburgh AAA to Rochester and let the Twins have Iowa... Everyone will have a shorter trip to their AAA affiliates that way.
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08-23-2012, 02:26 AM #40



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