Thread: Blackburn Offseason Trade?

Can anyone think of a realistic trade for Blackburn involving another player with a bad contract? I would rather see something in return instead if just releasing either during or after spring training.

Not saying its something to do....but it will be this type
Nick/Nishi's 8.5m deals to MIA for Heath Bell & his 9m deal w/MIA picking up 9m (basically the 2014 salary)
2 teams dumping salary of player they dont want

It's silly how people try to come up with trades for those with negative trade value. At this point you just DFA him and hope that someone puts him on an MLB roster (paying the MLB min back to the Twins).

How's about this? The Mets need to trim salary, the Twins have space and will be looking for SP candidates for 2013 (and beyond).

Twins trade Blackburn and Nishioka to the Mets for Johan Santana

Blackburn/Nishioka will make $8.5M in 2013 (plus a $250K buyout for Nishioka in 2014.)

Santana is due $25.5M (!) in 2013, $25M in 2014 (with a $5.25M buyout).


The Mets send along $9M for 2013, and agree to pay half the 2014 buyout ($2.625M) should the Twins decide to exercise it. The Mets save $8M in 2013, and $2.385M (factoring in Nishi's buyout) in 2014.

Twins are out from under Blackburn and Nishioka, and have a net $8M invested in Santana for 2013, plus $2.625M in 2014. They potentially have one rotation slot fixed for 2013, at a reasonable cost, or at least filled with someone who has as decent a chance of being a good pitcher in 2013 as anything else they're likely to get for that price in 2013 on a one year deal. I happen to think Santana is a good bounceback bet next year, two yrs removed from surgery.

Originally Posted by USAFChief

How's about this? The Mets need to trim salary, the Twins have space and will be looking for SP candidates for 2013 (and beyond).

Twins trade Blackburn and Nishioka to the Mets for Johan Santana

Blackburn/Nishioka will make $8.5M in 2013 (plus a $250K buyout for Nishioka in 2014.)

Santana is due $25.5M (!) in 2013, $25M in 2014 (with a $5.25M buyout).


The Mets send along $9M for 2013, and agree to pay half the 2014 buyout ($2.625M) should the Twins decide to exercise it. The Mets save $8M in 2013, and $2.385M (factoring in Nishi's buyout) in 2014.

Twins are out from under Blackburn and Nishioka, and have a net $8M invested in Santana for 2013, plus $2.625M in 2014. They potentially have one rotation slot fixed for 2013, at a reasonable cost, or at least filled with someone who has as decent a chance of being a good pitcher in 2013 as anything else they're likely to get for that price in 2013 on a one year deal. I happen to think Santana is a good bounceback bet next year, two yrs removed from surgery.

Even straight up, I don't see this happening.

I'm sure if the Mets want to hand away Santana for little value they can do better than Blackburn and Nishi.

Originally Posted by TheLeviathan

I'm sure if the Mets want to hand away Santana for little value they can do better than Blackburn and Nishi.

How about we include Grey, Carson, Thomas, Guerra and a B level and a couple of C level prospects to go with?

I can't fathom anyone giving up anything for Blackburn. I personally would be more in favor of taking him off the field and letting him come out between innings to throw souvenir shirts to fans rather than his customary room service fastballs.

Bartlett, but he was release today. 1.5m buy out.

Originally Posted by USAFChief

How's about this? The Mets need to trim salary, the Twins have space and will be looking for SP candidates for 2013 (and beyond).

Twins trade Blackburn and Nishioka to the Mets for Johan Santana

Blackburn/Nishioka will make $8.5M in 2013 (plus a $250K buyout for Nishioka in 2014.)

Santana is due $25.5M (!) in 2013, $25M in 2014 (with a $5.25M buyout).


The Mets send along $9M for 2013, and agree to pay half the 2014 buyout ($2.625M) should the Twins decide to exercise it. The Mets save $8M in 2013, and $2.385M (factoring in Nishi's buyout) in 2014.

Twins are out from under Blackburn and Nishioka, and have a net $8M invested in Santana for 2013, plus $2.625M in 2014. They potentially have one rotation slot fixed for 2013, at a reasonable cost, or at least filled with someone who has as decent a chance of being a good pitcher in 2013 as anything else they're likely to get for that price in 2013 on a one year deal. I happen to think Santana is a good bounceback bet next year, two yrs removed from surgery.

Why would the Mets do this? Worst case scenario with Santana (outside of injury) is that they convert him to the pen, where he could be a useful player. He's still striking out guys.

On the other hand, Blackburn and Nishi have almost a zero percent chance of being effective anywhere on a ML roster.

Maybe if Carlos Silva was still around he'd be a fit.

Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp

Why would the Mets do this? Worst case scenario with Santana (outside of injury) is that they convert him to the pen, where he could be a useful player. He's still striking out guys.

On the other hand, Blackburn and Nishi have almost a zero percent chance of being effective anywhere on a ML roster.

Throw in Duensing.

I did get a good chuckle out of that "idea" though.

I would take Crash Davis and Nuke Laloosh at this point, but even Durham wouldn't take a Blackie/Nishi combo platter.

This one gets my vote for dumbest thread of the season.

Maybe we could trade both Blackburn and Nishi to the Sugar Land Skeeters for Roger Clemens...

I think Blacky could do as good if not better than Jason Marquis in the NL. SP is very valueable some would want him.

Salary dump for salary dump. I'd like to get the former Fausto Carmona from the Indians but Blackburn would have to convince somebody he could get out major league hitters.

Originally Posted by cr9617

This one gets my vote for dumbest thread of the season.

.....................+1

Pitching coaches and scouts can be finicky. If the Twins were willing to basically eat his entire salary, some national league team may give a PTBNL of the low-level variety, to take a flier on somebody who has had some success in the past.

Why would any team trade for this?

Among all MLB pitchers to start more than 60 games since 2010 he ranks dead last in:
- ERA (5.56)
- Opponents' batting average (.313)
- Opponents' on-base percentage (.359)
- Opponents' slugging percentage (.507)
- Homers per nine innings (1.5)
- Baserunners per nine innings (14.1)
- Strikeouts per nine innings (4.1)
- Strikeout-to-walk ratio (1.55)