Thread: Article: The Development of Chris Parmelee

Morneau will only be here 1 more year max! I'd wager there is a 50/50 chance he is traded before next season, and a 80% chance he is traded before the deadline next year.

I know Parmelee isn't a great OF, but if need be you can probably live with him in RF/DH for half a season or so. (perhaps Parmelee and Doumit switch off between RF/DH)?

That of course would assume that one of the OF would be traded before next season, which I also think their is a great chance.

At the end of the day, I'd say there is a great chance that one of the following players will be traded: Span, Revere, Morneau, Willingham. If one is traded, then Parmelee has his everyday role.

No need to trade Parmelee at this point, that would be a massive mistake unless someone wants to grossly overpay.

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Originally Posted by Seth Stohs

The other way they can get Parmelee playing time this season (but August is already over) is to send Butera down, have Doumit exclusively at back up catcher, have a rotation of Parmelee/Morneau/Mauer at 1B and Parmelee/Morneau/Doumit at DH. Span sounds like might be available tomorrow so they will have 4 OFs... So really insisting on having Butera warming the bench cuts down on Parmelee's playing time..

Yeah, it's time for Butera to go, the need for him to be up here is beyond ridiculous already. This scenario is likely the best one with an occasional start in RF thrown in as well.

I think we can all agree that injuries happen. It does seem to me that some don't consider it. Depth is important.

A. The Current Twins do not have a decent option off the bench for Pinch Hitting duties.
B. The Current Twins have at least two starters at SS and 2B that are prime candidates to be pinch hit for at the end of games in key moments.
C. The Current Twins also have two other starters who are decent hittes but not legitimate Home Run Threats for those key situations where a late inning home run is the last hope.
D. Look at point B and C and then Re-Read point A

I believe that Parmelee should be called up Right NOW. This Time he shouldn't waste time on the bench like he did in his last call up. He should be placed into a rotation of Doumit, Mauer, Morneau and Willingham. 5 Players and 4 positions... Whoever sits can become that pinch hitting option.

With the current state of the Twins... It makes no sense to me to suggest that Morneau is blocking Parmelee... Nothing is blocking Parmelee... The only thing that is blocking Parmelee is Gardenhire's insistence on playing players nearly every day. Nobody has to be traded to make room for Parmelee. Players should only be traded because we need Pitching or Middle Infield.

This isn't a knock on Gardy... Well it kinda is... But I think he's a fine manager. Just a little creativity here is all that's required.

Calling Parmelee up and rotating him in right now does many things.

A. Provides a decent pinch hit bat late in games.
B. Gets him more MLB Exposure
C. Provides a MLB experienced injury replacement for the injuries that will occur.
D. Gives injury prone players and aging players a day of rest from time to time.
E. Improves the Team!!!

No Brainer!!!

I agree. The minor leagues are for learning to be a better player. Which he has advanced at every level. I think if he get traded, he will be just like the other players the head office let go to another team and excell such as "Big Poppy, AJ and Ramos. Unless he plays up there, we wil never really know. The season is a wash now anyway. Rest the veterans and let the rest play. We need OFFENSE!!!

Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave

I know Parmelee isn't a great OF, but if need be you can probably live with him in RF/DH for half a season or so. (perhaps Parmelee and Doumit switch off between RF/DH)?.

I forgot how often we've endured "Ryan Doumit: Outfielder" of late. If we can put up with that, we can deal with Parmalee out there. Quite frankly, Doumit should move to the role he was signed for (bench) to make room for Parmalee.

Originally Posted by TheLeviathan

Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave

I know Parmelee isn't a great OF, but if need be you can probably live with him in RF/DH for half a season or so. (perhaps Parmelee and Doumit switch off between RF/DH)?.

I forgot how often we've endured "Ryan Doumit: Outfielder" of late. If we can put up with that, we can deal with Parmalee out there. Quite frankly, Doumit should move to the role he was signed for (bench) to make room for Parmalee.

Doumit has a .834 OPS this year and a .830 OPS last year. A guy like that shouldn't be riding the bench.

More than likely, one of Willingham, Morneau, Span, Mauer or Doumit will get injured at some point anyways. I think people are getting a little "happy feet" when it comes to Parmelee, things will work out sooner or later. No need to trade him, or someone else just for the sake of opening up a roster spot.

I agree. No NEED to trade Parmelee. But, it seems the Twins need MLB pitching prospects more than they need another 1B/OF/DH. Like we saw in the Matt Garza/Delmon Young trade, you need to trade something of value (Garza) to get value (Young... at the time was 21 years old and coming off a year in which he was 2nd in ROY voting). I just hope it works out better long term for the Twins this time.

Matt Carson.....that puts a lot of faith into the fans that the front office knows what its doin

Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave

Doumit has a .834 OPS this year and a .830 OPS last year. A guy like that shouldn't be riding the bench.

He's also on a career-best pace for ABs in a season due to better health, which is unlikely to be sustainable. I like Doumit, but he's not the kind of guy that should stand in the way of getting a good look at Parmalee.

Originally Posted by phillips

News has it that Carson was promoted last night.

I doubt this is the case. I'm not saying that he wasn't promoted, I'm saying that he definitely wasn't promoted last night.

The Twins would have to make an additional move in order to promote Carson as he isn't on the 40-man roster and it is currently full.

Matt Carson.....that puts a lot of faith into the fans that the front office knows what its doin

Ya right.......in the last 5 years it really shows the front office know what they are doing. Does a player from JAPAN ring a bell!

Originally Posted by SweetOne69

Originally Posted by phillips

News has it that Carson was promoted last night.

I doubt this is the case. I'm not saying that he wasn't promoted, I'm saying that he definitely wasn't promoted last night.

The Twins would have to make an additional move in order to promote Carson as he isn't on the 40-man roster and it is currently full.

As of now (12:58 PM EDT on Thursday) The official Twins' 25 man roster stands at 23.

The transactions of optioning Manship and Perdomo were recorded today, but Swarzak has yet to be activated and mystery position player to be identified. The Twins have an off day today and a late game at Seattle. Twins' players are still in the Twin Cities. I suspect that mystery player will meet them there and fly with the team but I do not know when they are leaving for Seattle.

The Red Wings beat writer in Rochester, NY, thinks that Parmelee is the most likely to go to the Twins, but incorrectly, he speaks about Swarzak's activation like it happened (which will happen but has not yet). So not sure whether he has inside information at this point.

The only reason Parmelee hasn't played more is that we've had a lucky amount of health at OF and 1B. That can't be counted on next year. And does it really matter if we have Doumit or Parmelee in RF as long as both are getting plenty at bats.

Originally Posted by PseudoSABR

The only reason Parmelee hasn't played more is that we've had a lucky amount of health at OF and 1B. That can't be counted on next year. And does it really matter if we have Doumit or Parmelee in RF as long as both are getting plenty at bats.

Well....the last time Parmalee was up he got a nice spot on the bench virtually every game he was here. If we call him up again - he needs to play. If that means Doumit sits quite a bit, so be it.

Originally Posted by Jack Torse

Who cares how bad he is in right field, lets see how he hits in 6 weeks and play him at 1st next year. It's not exactly like he's never played out there or will be exposed like a bad shortstop. If you can't give him OF playing time in a year like this it will never happen. They're going to move Morneau so they better see what they got out of this cat because he will be at 1st next season. If he hits in these next 6 weeks he's probably Mccarty proof because it's not like the league has never seen him before.

I agree. Parmalee needs to play almost every day the rest of the year (somewhere). If you play him in RF and he plays like Delmon and costs the Twins a game or two--who cares. The Twins are going to lose 90+ games anyway...

We need to know if Parmalee can hit MLB pitching. Until we know that--we dont know if we can trade Justin this winter.

The Twins need to be building for 2014--give Floriman, Benson, Dozier, Parmalee looks (maybe Hicks too). See who will be starting in 2014. And which vets you can trade for pitching and middle IF help.

Originally Posted by DAM DC Twins Fans

Originally Posted by Jack Torse

Who cares how bad he is in right field, lets see how he hits in 6 weeks and play him at 1st next year. It's not exactly like he's never played out there or will be exposed like a bad shortstop. If you can't give him OF playing time in a year like this it will never happen. They're going to move Morneau so they better see what they got out of this cat because he will be at 1st next season. If he hits in these next 6 weeks he's probably Mccarty proof because it's not like the league has never seen him before.

I agree. Parmalee needs to play almost every day the rest of the year (somewhere). If you play him in RF and he plays like Delmon and costs the Twins a game or two--who cares. The Twins are going to lose 90+ games anyway...

We need to know if Parmalee can hit MLB pitching. Until we know that--we dont know if we can trade Justin this winter.

The Twins need to be building for 2014--give Floriman, Benson, Dozier, Parmalee looks (maybe Hicks too). See who will be starting in 2014. And which vets you can trade for pitching and middle IF help.

I agree he needs to play if he comes back up, and he should come back up. I don't know if I'd be ready to anoint him Morneau's successor based on some success in September, he had a huge September last year and it didn't translate this spring. I'll concede he wasn't utilized that well at the time but he still struggled against real pitching.

Originally Posted by PseudoSABR

The only reason Parmelee hasn't played more is that we've had a lucky amount of health at OF and 1B. That can't be counted on next year. And does it really matter if we have Doumit or Parmelee in RF as long as both are getting plenty at bats.

Yup, heading into the season they were counting on him being the every day RF IIRC, but Revere out played him.

Briefly, it is spelled Parm E lee, not Parm A lee. It's a little thing, but it's driving me nuts as I read comments. I know that's as more my problem than anyone else's.
2nd, I agree with almost all of Riverbrian's comment, except that I've seen the quotes from Gardenhire saying he'd be happy to work out a rotation that gets Parmelee regular at-bats now.
I don't think the Carson call-up has anything to do with the manager's preference, just the FO wanting to reward Carson (who's been solid all year and hasn't gotten the 2 chances Parmelee has) and the reality that this is a very temporary situation. Parmelee will be up and playing in no time.
Thrylos, thanks for pointing out the Butera angle. That definitely would reassign some dead at-bats to a good cause.

Originally Posted by PopRiveter

Briefly, it is spelled Parm E lee, not Parm A lee. It's a little thing, but it's driving me nuts as I read comments. I know that's as more my problem than anyone else's.

This drives me nuts like a steering wheel in my pants. Same thing when people try to put a "c" into Hendriks.

Basically, you lose all credibility talking about players if you can't even spell their names.

Originally Posted by 70charger

Basically, you lose all credibility talking about players if you can't even spell their names.

Doug Mientskaeizkwisandwich called, he said there aren't any Twins fans with credibility.