Thread: Article: Arcia, Hicks might have earned a look

Originally Posted by twinstalker

Does calling up Hicks (and putting him on the 40) start his options one year earlier than if he's added in November?

I'm not worried about playing time for these guys, as they don't need to play every day, and nor do any of the current Twin outfielders need to play every day in September.

No, I don't think it does. You don't use the option unless you're sent down. So if he's called up in September but never demoted until next year at spring training, he doesn't use the option.

(Can anyone else confirm that definitively?)

Originally Posted by twinstalker

Does calling up Hicks (and putting him on the 40) start his options one year earlier than if he's added in November?

I'm not worried about playing time for these guys, as they don't need to play every day, and nor do any of the current Twin outfielders need to play every day in September.

It doesn't use an option, nor should it (hopefully) be an issue with a guy like Hicks anyways.

The real issue is the Super 2 thingy, I'm not sure if the rules have changed, but ideally you wouldn't want him to gain that status since he has the chance to be a special player. Typically I am against holding players back for this, but there are a few guys in the Twins system (Arcia, Hicks, Sano, Gibson??) where it might be warranted.

The real issue is the Super 2 thingy...

Well, sure. But a September call-up, followed by what comes next year (over half the year at AAA) should allow for that, and if it doesn't, it won't make that huge of financial difference overall. The real kicker is making sure they end next year with under 1 year of major league time so push back the FA year and keep them under team control. i doubt there's going to be anything negative, accrual-wise, that occurs from a call-up this September.

John, you are correct. An option is only used when a guy is sent down.

As for the super 2... If Hicks were to get called up in Sept, and make the team out of ST next year and never go back down, he will not be a super 2. Even the super 2s, by the way, still have 2+ full years in teh league. He becomes a super 2 if he gets called up in say May and never goes back down, which would make him arb elibible in 2016.

Originally Posted by shanewahl

I don't like calling either up, nor do I like sending either to AFL.

Please state a good reason for not allowing either to play in the AFL with the rest of the top minor league prospects. It would be very rare for Arcia to play there (he'll play in the VWL likely) though.

Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan

John, you are correct. An option is only used when a guy is sent down.

As for the super 2... If Hicks were to get called up in Sept, and make the team out of ST next year and never go back down, he will not be a super 2. Even the super 2s, by the way, still have 2+ full years in teh league. He becomes a super 2 if he gets called up in say May and never goes back down, which would make him arb elibible in 2016.

Of course he wouldn't be super 2 in this situation but he would hit FA a year earlier which imo is worse than super 2. super 2 only costs money while FA means that you completely lose the player one year earlier. You pretty much laid out the worst case scenario with your explanation.

Ryan hinted in an interview Mon that they do plan on calling both up in Sept......is goin down to New Brit to do final reviews/make decions

Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz

Ryan hinted in an interview Mon that they do plan on calling both up in Sept......is goin down to New Brit to do final reviews/make decions

Which interview? Was that the one with Doogie?