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    Quote Originally Posted by DPJ View Post
    .890 OPS with pluys defense!!!
    Oh, shut it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeviathan View Post
    SSS - so does Mastro. These aren't your classic platoon guys.

    Maybe Mastro can play CF on the road - that's where we need a platoon.
    I'm not crazy about Revere as a starting corner OF, platoon or not.

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    2012 off-season- Trade Span for pitching
    2013 off-season- Trade Revere for pitching
    2014 OF alignment- Hicks CF, Arcia, Benson, Willingham DH, Mastrio 4th OF

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketpig View Post
    Oh, shut it.
    I'm gonna give you **** about that forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPJ View Post
    I'm gonna give you **** about that forever.
    In all fairness, I said that I never expected him to repeat his .890 OPS... But I thought .800 was possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketpig View Post
    In all fairness, I said that I never expected him to repeat his .890 OPS... But I thought .800 was possible.
    Might wanna cut that one in half at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketpig View Post
    In all fairness, I said that I never expected him to repeat his .890 OPS... But I thought .800 was possible.
    I'm just giving you **** man, it's no big deal.

    The one thing that makes me question if Doz will ever be a starting player is controling the strike zone. He was so good in the minors at talking walks and rarely striking out and now that seems like the complete opposite since he's been in the majors. I didn't expect him to come up and rake right away, but I thought he'd walk enough to be valuable still he figured things out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPJ View Post
    I'm just giving you **** man, it's no big deal.

    The one thing that makes me question if Doz will ever be a starting player is controling the strike zone. He was so good in the minors at talking walks and rarely striking out and now that seems like the complete opposite since he's been in the majors. I didn't expect him to come up and rake right away, but I thought he'd walk enough to be valuable still he figured things out.
    That's what I find baffling about him. Coming through the minors, his calling cards were steady hands on defense and good plate discipline.

    Inextricably, those are his two biggest weaknesses in the majors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketpig View Post
    That's what I find baffling about him. Coming through the minors, his calling cards were steady hands on defense and good plate discipline.

    Inextricably, those are his two biggest weaknesses in the majors.
    Rookie jitters, speed of the game...who knows.

    Atleast Gardy has let him play and hasn't jerked him around like so many rookies of the past.

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    Its pretty rare to see poeple move from OF to middle IF. My guess is if Mastro had the defensive chops to stick at 2b be would never have been moved to OF in the first place. Fielding ground balls is tougher than catching fly balls. Thats why most major leaguers were SS's somewhere in their past but keep getting moved to easier positions as they enter pro ball or move through the minors.

    Could Mastro give you an inning or two, maybe a game, without killing you? Yeah probably. Thinking he can learn to play 2nd base full time at this point? Extremely doubtful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPJ View Post
    Atleast Gardy has let him play and hasn't jerked him around like so many rookies of the past.
    Yeah, that's something. I'd hate to see Carroll take playing time from Dozier in what hasn't been anything more than a lost season since early May.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    Its pretty rare to see poeple move from OF to middle IF. My guess is if Mastro had the defensive chops to stick at 2b be would never have been moved to OF in the first place. Fielding ground balls is tougher than catching fly balls. Thats why most major leaguers were SS's somewhere in their past but keep getting moved to easier positions as they enter pro ball or move through the minors.

    Could Mastro give you an inning or two, maybe a game, without killing you? Yeah probably. Thinking he can learn to play 2nd base full time at this point? Extremely doubtful.
    That's the most likely situation, so I agree. I guess I was just curious if anyone had heard, read, or had other information. Players get shuffled around in the minors not always because it fits them best, but because of organizational strengths/weaknesses.

    I'd like to see him get some spot innings there in September, just to see what his chops actually are. No high hopes, just an option that could help this team.

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    wouldnt say there is NO shot as Gardy played Brian Dinkelman alot last Sept after not playing alot of infield the past couple yrs.
    However, Id say its more likely that Dozier will play some 2B with Escobar at SS.

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    mass-troy-onni seems to have one plus tool--speed combined with the skills to be quite the base stealer. I don't think he could develop to be an asset as a hitter, but I wouldn't shed tears if he played some second base in order to get into the lineup more often. Am I the only one that is not impressed with his defense in the outfield? I've seen him misplay several balls and drop a not-difficult catch in a small amount of time. He doesn't seem to have a big arm either. Repko was a very good defensive outfielder but couldn't hit much and didn't have quite enough speed to be a real threat on the bases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz View Post
    wouldnt say there is NO shot as Gardy played Brian Dinkelman alot last Sept after not playing alot of infield the past couple yrs.
    Gardy was just looking for enough bodies to make a lineup at the end of last season.

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    Don't think his bat will hold up as a starter anywhere, but he's looking like a quality 4th OF and a very nice RH complement to Revere.
    I don't know about his past or projected future, but this year his 104 OPS+ pegs him as a dead-average hitter, which would play pretty well as a starter at 2B - particularly with what we've been fielding there for the last few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPJ View Post
    .890 OPS with pluys defense!!!
    He's shown flashes of talent... It's probably a bit early to give up. I don't remember anying saying plus defense... or .890 OPS, but he could top out above average with the bat and play average defense... He has the track record, and it isn't as if he's blocking anyone. Let the kid play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan View Post
    He's shown flashes of talent... It's probably a bit early to give up. I don't remember anying saying plus defense... or .890 OPS, but he could top out above average with the bat and play average defense... He has the track record, and it isn't as if he's blocking anyone. Let the kid play.
    The only problem is that sometimes you hurt a kid's future by continually allowing him to fail. Right now Dozier isn't succeeding at much of anything, so confidence can start to become an issue. As has been said here already - he's not even doing the things he normally does right.

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    I really enjoy seeing him run the bases

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrentMpls View Post
    I really enjoy seeing him run the bases
    Yeah, when's the last time we had a guy this aggressive? Gladden?

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