08-01-2012, 04:40 PM #41
08-01-2012, 04:47 PM #42I post regularly on our Knuckleballs blog (http://knuckleballsblog.com/)
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08-01-2012, 04:55 PM #43
2013 Free Agents *= Currant Team has an option
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Fausto Carmona *
Jorge De La Rosa *
R.A. Dickey *
Scott Feldman *
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Dan Haren *
Tim Hudson *
Brett Myers *
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08-01-2012, 05:16 PM #44
There are ways to envision a decent rotation here next year without requiring a huge free agent spending spree, which is why I feel that Mackey's conclusion was a bit of a stretch.
08-01-2012, 06:10 PM #45
They can't afford to punt. But they are in a bit of a tough spot on the timing.
They have to somehow convince season ticket holders that they will be "competitive" next year (or at least respectable) but most of their moves probably can't/won't be made until after the date by which they normally ask season ticket holders to make those decisions.
It puts ticketholders in a bad spot as well.
I really look for a giant spin machine -- and a number of promotions for season ticketholders -- to try to drive that traffic early.
Then I think they will budget in the range of $90 million (maybe a little more). So assuming that the $76 million estimate is right on current players that probably leaves about $24 million (or thereabouts) for whatever additions they may make.
As Nick said, certainly enough to sign one mid-tier free agent pitcher (look for them to overpay a little to reduce the length to 2 years if possible and no more than 3); plus a higher risk/higher reward plus "tinkering" money to fill some other holes.
Overall, it leaves me pretty blah -- but then I've been calling for them to remake this team since October 2010 (despite the 94 wins).
08-01-2012, 06:33 PM #46
I kind of hope they would go for someone like McCarthy, but the dude is ALWAYS injured.
08-01-2012, 07:29 PM #47
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08-01-2012, 07:53 PM #49
JB, that leaves $14MM, not $24....Win Twins.
08-01-2012, 07:59 PM #50
08-01-2012, 08:04 PM #51
There are three roads.
1) Punt 2013
2) Go for it in 2013
3) Try to be competitive in 2013
They aren't punting. To do so would require trading off aging assets. You trade Willingham if you are punting. You don't sign Doumit. You start investing playing time in Parmelee.
Are they going for it? We will see. Hard to imagine they will increase the budget in order to buy a pitching staff that can contend.
My fear is that they will do neither. They will sign some decline phase players to fill holes and hope to hang around .500 long enough to give the impression of being competitive. In the end, they will enter 2014 with an aging roster following a 75-85 win season.
08-01-2012, 08:17 PM #52
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08-01-2012, 10:04 PM #55
Can't solve this problem with one big FA starting pitcher (IMO), which makes it unlikely that Ryan will want to go that route - chews up too much money on a roster with too many other holes.
We're more competitive with the starting 8 this year than last - which isn't hard to do - but we're not "contender class" there yet (IMO). What we'd need (a) Mauer stays healthy and productive; (b) Willingham continues to produce; (c) Morneau returns to pre-concussion form; (d) Plouffe proves he can do it consistently; (e) middle infield becomes more useful offensively.
Biggest issue is starting rotation. We don't have reason to be comfortable with any of them - getting more so with Diamond, start by start, but I want to see more.
IMO, the plan is to rebuild the farm system & use FA to add complimentary / "last" pieces. We aren't close to needing "last pieces" yet.
08-01-2012, 10:21 PM #56
jim pohlad.......if the wheels arnt falling off the brinks truck he wont fix anything that reqiures time or money.....
08-01-2012, 10:39 PM #57
That is a not a deep class of free agent starting pitchers.
If they sign one decent guy, trade an OF for another and take a flier or two that would be a success.Papers...business papers.
08-01-2012, 10:41 PM #58
08-01-2012, 10:58 PM #59
If anything it looks like a solid but not great pitching class, also I'd wager there is a damn good chance that Sanchez never sees the Free Agent market (from what I have been told), and wouldn't be shocked if Grienke didn't see it as well.
08-01-2012, 11:04 PM #60
You can live with a couple crappy bats in the lineup as long as the other 7 are solid. People seem to forget the Twins won multiple division titles with guys like Punto, Tolbert, Castro, Bautista, etc getting a ton of at bats.
Plus we could probably got out and get a guy like Kelly Johnson to handle 2B who would be rather affordable if we needed to.